JSR wants a lathe/mill thread -> JSR buys Sherline

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Thu May 19, 2011 12:07 am

You guys do know Judgement day is this saturday, right?
I was going to say that

Yeah as LeMaudit said you probably don't need a lathe...
Children are the future

unless we stop them now
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Thu May 19, 2011 12:27 am

POLAND_SPUD wrote:Yeah as LeMaudit said you probably don't need a lathe...
It would be good to have a lathe, for bolts, pistons etc. but a mill is also an asset. Listen to me, the four horsemen must really be approaching! I blame the miniboy :P
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Thu May 19, 2011 1:31 pm

My lathe paid it's self off in about 10 months, has paid for it's extra tooling and the rest is pure profit :D
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Thu May 19, 2011 2:15 pm

I blame the miniboy
Don't you dare ! :lol:

My lathe paid it's self off in about 10 months,
If you have an entrepreneurship soul, you can make easy money yes.
All my equipment, lathe, mill, band saw, drill press, etc etc... was refund in a year selling little machined and resin cast pieces to miniature modelers.

But if it's for work, it become not fun very quickly.
Now I understood that, I try to only have fun with the tools :-D
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Fri May 20, 2011 12:17 am

Well, I'm pretty much sold on the idea of getting a small lathe/mill combo and have set aside the funds. Need to do some digging before parting with my hard earned though.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Fri May 20, 2011 12:44 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Well, I'm pretty much sold on the idea of getting a small lathe/mill combo and have set aside the funds. Need to do some digging before parting with my hard earned though.

you will be on our side, when you take over right? :lol:
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Fri May 20, 2011 1:56 am

When the day of the zombie apocalypse dawns, we will all be on the same side!
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Fri May 20, 2011 7:38 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:When the day of the zombie apocalypse dawns, we will all be on the same side!
Does that mean we can take refuge in the epoxy cave? :P
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Fri May 20, 2011 7:44 am

Does that mean we can take refuge in the epoxy cave?
Its not cured! NOT CURED! Arrggghhhhh..... :violent1:
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Fri May 20, 2011 7:45 am

jrrdw wrote:Does that mean we can take refuge in the epoxy cave? :P
Once you're done paddling across the Atlantic, sure ;)

Back on topic, one for you machinists out there - you know who you are - how difficult would it be for a n00b to make something like this?

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The original design was for a pneumatic but I would add an electrode to the schrader et voila, hybrid cartridge. It's basically a tube with a threaded cap, is it something a beginner can achieve in a couple of hours?
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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Fri May 20, 2011 8:01 am

The short thread can be a bit of a pain, you'll need bottom tap to achieve it. On an economic point of view, I would try to do a thread on the outside for that reason, longer, so I can use a single kind of tap, cheaper.

A couple of hours? That's after you draw the plan and set up the machine and prepare with a lot of sweat the little pieces of metal saw from a long metal bar, right? Could be... you're quite fast usually :D

This would be done entirely on the lathe BTW ;-)
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Fri May 20, 2011 8:09 am

LeMaudit wrote:I would try to do a thread on the outside for that reason, longer, so I can use a single kind of tap, cheaper.
:oops:

what?

You mean reverse the male and female positions, so the endcap is a sort of rimmed collar? I need to do some reading up on threading, I have no idea what you're talking about :)
LeMaudit wrote:Its not cured! NOT CURED! Arrggghhhhh..... :violent1:
Mixing larger quantities of epoxy generates quite a bit of heat, so it's more like "It burns! IT BURNS!" :D
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Fri May 20, 2011 8:45 am

I'll try to explain but I'm no expert:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tap_and_die
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To form a thread with a tap up to the very bottom, you need three kind of taps: Start with a taper, then plug, then bottom.
Now, the cheaper taps are the taper ones.
If you do it the the other way around, you have a thread longer on your drawing, and I feel you could use a cheap tap to form the correct threads on the beginning of the hole.

An alternative could be to make the plug in two parts, so you can thread the hole inside with a simple taper tap, being in two parts the thread is right up to the end and you can make something more compact

It seem more complicated to do but not really. For the two parts plug, you just have to tap the inside of a tube and keep the length where the thread are formed correctly, and the plug is simply the end of the chamber part that you'll slice off after you made the thread all the way with a die :D

Note that the simple way is to buy the three kind of taps of course...

it BURNS!!!! :blob6:
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Fri May 20, 2011 9:07 am

Here's an alternative closer to your first solution, that still don't need the 3 kinds of tap
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Fri May 20, 2011 9:31 am

JSR,
I notice you added epoxy around the schrader in your design. I guess old habits die hard. :P
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