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Navy

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:09 pm
by frankrede
On Wednesday, they are coming to my house to talk about the Navy.
Does anyone here been in the Navy, or anything else I should know?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:11 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Don't pick up the soap ;)

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:31 pm
by Sticky_Tape
Hahahahahaha good one it wouldn't be too good to drop it anyway.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:08 pm
by FishBoy
when you say "they are coming to my house to talk about the navy" you mean like a recruiter's coming to talk to you right?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:29 pm
by noob of noobs
One of my friends had a friend that had a cousin that said that the naval academy was hell based on the movie Annapolis.
That's all I know. :D

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:12 pm
by starman
For any of the military branches.....

Recruiters are notoriously cunning and convincing and will promise you everything, including no work in a war zone. DO NOT take their word for it.

- Make sure you get ALL promises in writing with a real signature of someone who matters.

- NEVER volunteer for anything.

- Be wary of promises of gamer type roles like unmanned predator missions, etc. The lines are 100s of miles long to get in those programs and the competition is extremely intense.

I'm not trying to convince you not to join, quite the contrary. If you are truly up to it, God bless you brother.. :) Just know that in joining the US military, they own you 24/7/365. You do what they tell you, you go where they tell you to go, and they will make your life a living hell if you don't comply.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:12 pm
by paaiyan
Don't sign anything.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:16 pm
by frankrede
FishBoy wrote:when you say "they are coming to my house to talk about the navy" you mean like a recruiter's coming to talk to you right?
Yes, thats what I meant.
starman wrote:For any of the military branches.....

Recruiters are notoriously cunning and convincing and will promise you everything, including no work in a war zone. DO NOT take their word for it.

- Make sure you get ALL promises in writing with a real signature of someone who matters.

- NEVER volunteer for anything.

- Be wary of promises of gamer type roles like unmanned predator missions, etc. The lines are 100s of miles long to get in those programs and the competition is extremely intense.

I'm not trying to convince you not to join, quite the contrary. If you are truly up to it, God bless you brother.. :) Just know that in joining the US military, they own you 24/7/365. You do what they tell you, you go where they tell you to go, and they will make your life a living hell if you don't comply.
Thank you, I will keep your advice in mind

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:48 pm
by TurboSuper
Hrm...Navy. I think you'dd have to be up to living at sea- sleeping in cramped quarters and spending lots of time in claustrophobic places with loud machinery. Oh, and try not to get seasick :P

I've never been in the Navy, but this is how it seems. I don't buy that "see the world like it's a cruise" crap.

Oh, and aircraft carriers are one of the most dangerous places to work in the world, you've been warned.

At least you don't have to worry about terrorist attacks, I'm pretty sure they'd take out those "bomb boats" before they got into eyesight.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:02 pm
by pizlo
You should see if the documentary "carrier" is playing on your Public TV station aswell.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:44 pm
by THUNDERLORD
Hard to explain, but everything that can be said about military advantages can be said about ANY other job just about.

The real advantages are really only there after YEARS, except for the actual experience of military workings such as taking orders, discipline and chain of command workings
(No fraternizing with higher ranks, reporting only to your immediate superior,physical discipline, etc.)

To explain further here's some examples:
The PAY: after taxes and what they deduct it's like half what they promise.
The HEALTH BENEFITS: If you're sick they'll probably only send you to a nurse unless your dying and they only let you join if you're healthy anyway.
TRAVEL: You could work for McDonalds and travel Think about it... Plus you could pick where instead of being told or waiting forever to get to some obscure place surrounded by pawn shops tattoo parlors and stripper bars you can get to when they let you leave(but your still owned by them 24/7/365)
EDUCATION: You still have to sit in classes. Difference from college is you have to work and lot's of what you'll learn only is good for resume not credits.
WEAPONS TRAINING: If you want to train for normal firearms it's much easier to go to a range and practice yourself or get a private instructor. The large weapons systems are cool and "unreal" compared to civilian stuff but they're always becoming obsolete after you get out.
(Dragon missile was made obsolete by the javelin missile for example)

MARRIAGE(?)... You might as well let me borrow Karen for a while since you won't get to see her for months and months :P
(while your polishing, taking orders not sleeping, exposed to elements and basically suffering in general).

My advice DON'T SIGN ANYTHING, they will be pushy to get you to. Just remember you're not obligated and they secretly think you're a Punk Kid!
BTW It's called "The service" 'cause that's what people do there service work.(Like volunteering). Just my advice that's all. :roll: 8)

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:50 pm
by frankrede
THUNDERLORD wrote:Hard to explain, but everything that can be said about military advantages can be said about ANY other job just about.

The real advantages are really only there after YEARS, except for the actual experience of military workings such as taking orders, discipline and chain of command workings
(No fraternizing with higher ranks, reporting only to your immediate superior,physical discipline, etc.)

To explain further here's some examples:
The PAY: after taxes and what they deduct it's like half what they promise.
The HEALTH BENEFITS: If you're sick they'll probably only send you to a nurse unless your dying and they only let you join if you're healthy anyway.
TRAVEL: You could work for McDonalds and travel Think about it... Plus you could pick where instead of being told or waiting forever to get to some obscure place surrounded by pawn shops tattoo parlors and stripper bars you can get to when they let you leave(but your still owned by them 24/7/365)
EDUCATION: You still have to sit in classes. Difference from college is you have to work and lot's of what you'll learn only is good for resume not credits.
WEAPONS TRAINING: If you want to train for normal firearms it's much easier to go to a range and practice yourself or get a private instructor. The large weapons systems are cool and "unreal" compared to civilian stuff but they're always becoming obsolete after you get out.
(Dragon missile was made obsolete by the javelin missile for example)

MARRIAGE(?)... You might as well let me borrow Karen for a while since you won't get to see her for months and months :P
(while your polishing, taking orders not sleeping, exposed to elements and basically suffering in general).

My advice DON'T SIGN ANYTHING, they will be pushy to get you to. Just remember you're not obligated and they secretly think you're a Punk Kid!
BTW It's called "The service" 'cause that's what people do there service work.(Like volunteering). Just my advice that's all. :roll: 8)
Thanks, that was helpful.
I was also thinking about the Marines, does anyone else have some information I should know about?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:50 pm
by blind909
Yeah, My dad is in the military, and he said its nothing like what the recrueters say, He said they are Fu@king liers. He has been in for 26 years, and is in Afghanistan, but he said it is VERY rewarding. Just be careful of what you do. IMO, I hate boats and ships, so I would never join the navy, but if you REALLY want to, Go for it, And you get military discounts on Hotels, some resaraunts, some stores, so there are lots of Pros.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:16 am
by mark.f
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:50 pm
by frankrede
markfh11q wrote:If you're looking at joining the military, the best choice, in my opinion, would be the Air Force or the Navy. The Marine Corps or Army are interested in putting your ass in the grass "Over There" more than anything. The Navy and Air force are interested in you working like hell on whatever they tell you to do. Really, you have to make a decision based on these realities.

Just a question, but how did a Navy recruiter wind up going to your house? Did your parents invite him over or did he just call and say "I'm coming over to talk about the Navy."?
I had requested some information about the Navy a while back and they called and told me about some stuff and asked some questions. Then they asked me if I would be available on Wednesday, and I said yes then they asked if 2 O'clock would be good for me.