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Opening a bullet.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:58 am
by )DEMON(
How do I safely get the powder out of a bullet?As well as putting the projectile back on? :?

The round is similar to that of an M16.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:17 am
by pyrogeek
If you need powder, just buy it somewhere that sells reloading stuff. I would really advise against making lower power rounds, since I doubt you have a scale accurate enough to make them consistant. And then if you don't have enough powder the bullet can get lodged in the barrel, and when you fire the next round your gun can explode. I've seen guns that this happened to, believe me it can happen.
Anyway, nitrocellulose (the smokeless powder you would get from the bullet) is virtually useless. It requires a ton of confinenment to get it to actually work for anything besides use in ammunition.
I probably should have asked what you wanted it for, but I've seen too many threads like this, so this is just my general answer.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:30 am
by )DEMON(
No, I just want to take the powder out of it so it isn't live. I want to make it safe so I can use it for decoration. I don't even have a real gun.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:33 am
by CS
Didnt you already ask this question? I told you how... Search!

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:40 am
by )DEMON(
I don't recall you telling me anything about this. If I take the powder out must I also take out the precussion cap?

*This thing is solid, I don't think it is possible to just wriggle it out. I don't want to set it off because it will just explode.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:40 am
by pyrogeek
Cant you just carefully wiggle the bullet back and forth to get it out? I would be careful of the primer though, since if you drop it, it may go off.
Could you just go to a gunshop that sells reloading stuff, and buy a spent round and a new bullet? Its just a really bad idea for amatuers to screw with stuff like this.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:31 am
by )DEMON(
I am having trouble finding something usefull on the web. Maybe I will have to go to a gun shop and have them do it.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:43 am
by mark.f
Pliers and a vice grips worked for me...

But don't try that.

They sell pretty little blue hammers designed specifically for what you're talking about...

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:53 am
by )DEMON(
Can you supply a pic?
I suppose drilling a small hole in the side is out of the question.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:07 am
by CS
Align bullets longest length along the Y axis in a vice on "grasping" the slug of the bullet. Push along the X axis. Fairly simple.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:09 am
by )DEMON(
I will go try that now.

It is ok Spudshot, I got the slug off. All it took was a bit of wriggling in a vice. It has an impressive amount of stick powder in. There are some marks on the slug but it is ok. I put a piece of rubber tube around the slug and then gripped it.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:24 am
by spudshot
need to remove the primer too to make it completely deactivated. you'll need a kinetic bullet puller, a reloading press, and some form of de-capping die for it. another option is to fire it (without modifying anything!!!!!!) and then with use of a seating die and reloading press put a new bullet on there without any powder

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:50 am
by mark.f
You can squirt primers with oil to kill em. That's what they did for the decom. .50 caliber rounds they sold at the gun show last year...

But I wouldn't just trust that. I probably shouldn't venture into this area, but you can remove primers without any reloading tools with jeweler's pliers, (rosay pliers), and normal needle-nosed pliers, but you have to be ABSOLUTELY sure of what you're doing. I recommed just getting somebody with a reloading bench to do it for you.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:53 pm
by Mihlrad
Personally, for the sake of safety i wouldnt even do this if you arent 500% sure of what you are doing. We arent talking about messing up on a combustion or a pnuematic here, this is a live, and not exactly small round. You compared it to an m16 round which isnt exactly 9mm. They make special pliars / wrench things and hammers that work together to remove the bullet from the shell they use them alot for phorensics like murder cases to match bullets to shells and whatnot and to refill spent rounds. Pimp said to use a vice but personally i wouldnt do that god forbid you messed up, it could be the end of you. Pimp also better knows what he is doing on the matter i think. Just find someone who can do it for you, a gunsmith? A large gunshop would probably have the tools to do it try that. It is probably pretty cheap to get it done i cant imagine it takes less tahn 5 minutes. Also, you need to dispose of the powder carefully and you cant just toss it in a garbage pale either. Even a small bit of a spark or too much friction can trigger the powder. Good luck, make the right choice and think it over before you try to do it.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:13 pm
by ProfessorAmadeus
m16 bullets arnt big ( will still easly kill you ) most are .233 caliber. Unless you talking about the new .308 cal guns. really your not going to set it off unless you hit the primer