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first ball valve air gun

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:34 pm
by streetfire
this is my first rifle (that works!) it fires homemade darts at a max of 30 bar

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the gun
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sight for the show :shock:
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28 bar can go further
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the damage
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:42 pm
by Copperboy
Nice gun!

Don't bother pumping above 3 bar or so, before you´ve opened that ball valve the dart will be long gone.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:51 pm
by streetfire
Copperboy wrote:Nice gun!

Don't bother pumping above 3 bar or so, before you´ve opened that ball valve the dart will be long gone.
really? it gets more range with more bars at 17 normal firing pressure it goes 120 + meter

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:57 pm
by FighterAce
He's exaggerating... a bit... you can't use all of that potential at 30 bar with no firing mechanism and such a short barrel. I think you'd see a bigger improvement by speeding up the ball valve with a spring instead of increasing the pressure.

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Don't go over 28 bar!! I had a similar pump and the pressure gauge blew off at over 30 bar with a large chunk of the plastic body. Those little pumps are Not safe for large chambers and for pressures higher than 28 bar. Thats why they say "do not go over 28 bar" on the package.
Build yourself a stirrup pump... you'll get higher pressure, more volume and more durability from it.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:07 pm
by streetfire
FighterAce wrote:He's exaggerating... a bit... you can't use all of that potential at 30 bar with no firing mechanism and such a short barrel. I think you'd see a bigger improvement by speeding up the ball valve with a spring instead of increasing the pressure.
my next gun will have a qev and a longer barrel although the barrel is already like 40 centimetres long

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:13 pm
by Labtecpower
I have to promote myself again. You will get about 3 times the power you have right now, according to my tests.

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:06 pm
by Doctore
Simple like mine :D

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:06 pm
by streetfire
FighterAce wrote:He's exaggerating... a bit... you can't use all of that potential at 30 bar with no firing mechanism and such a short barrel. I think you'd see a bigger improvement by speeding up the ball valve with a spring instead of increasing the pressure.

EDIT

Don't go over 28 bar!! I had a similar pump and the pressure gauge blew off at over 30 bar with a large chunk of the plastic body. Those little pumps are Not safe for large chambers and for pressures higher than 28 bar. Thats why they say "do not go over 28 bar" on the package.
Build yourself a stirrup pump... you'll get higher pressure, more volume and more durability from it.
how do you make a stirrup pump?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:22 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
If you're feeling creative you can spring-load the ball valve with a bit of effort.

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The above design is for a semi-auto repeater, if you reverse the spring and trigger dynamics you can make a single shot fast valve.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:24 am
by streetfire
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:If you're feeling creative you can spring-load the ball valve with a bit of effort.

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The above design is for a semi-auto repeater, if you reverse the spring and trigger dynamics you can make a single shot fast valve.
thanks for te pic but i know how to make it spring loaded its just that my new project with a qev is already under way so i didn't put much more effort in it