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Triggers aughh

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:50 am
by iloveairguns
So.. just asking guys opinion of this airgun sketch up look up the image and comment if i should improve or change, etc. something and it would work maybe great as a schrader pilot if i put a thin rod for the valve needle.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:04 am
by Zeus
Can you explain the diagram more?


And it's very unlikely you'll be banned, just told off by the senior members.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:43 am
by iloveairguns
well in the upper diagram the idea is so ''under construction'' so thats all in it. I wont probably finish the idea but look at the lower idea that is almost finished

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:51 am
by Zeus
The lower idea will work just fine, make sure there's enough room to fill the launcher, so the trigger has to move backwards a fair bit.

I still don't get the first image, is it a balanced piston? Where's the sealing face?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:21 am
by iloveairguns
as you see in the trigger there is a screw as a hinge and in same time the screw holds the trigger in place, the screw could be screwed off before pumping, giving space for the pumping apparatus, but after all this idea has a lot of room to improve, and i need the opinion of you guys. :violent2:

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:01 am
by PotatoEnemy17
Both of the designs will work well. The one with the schrader valve cant be very big because a schrader valve is only a good pilot for really small piston valves. The one that you say shouldn't be finished is actually probably your best bet. Here's a link to another person who built one (it's called a balanced spool valve) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAossoHCu8E

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:47 am
by iloveairguns
potatoenemy17 post a cross section of a spool valve i might build a spool valve airgun even though id more like to make a coax airgun... :o :o :o

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:29 pm
by warhead052
PotatoEnemy17 wrote:The one with the schrader valve cant be very big because a schrader valve is only a good pilot for really small piston valves.
That statement is a lie. If your piston has close enough tolerances, you can pilot a piston as big as you want with a schrader.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:06 pm
by iloveairguns
yes the statement is a lie the small size of schrader doesnt mean it couldnt be used on big pistons

but guys i would even more need real help, if possible dont just argue but try to help me

Edited by jrrdw, double post.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:04 pm
by Crna Legija
iloveairguns wrote:yes the statement is a lie the small size of schrader doesnt mean it couldnt be used on big pistons
if your have a check valve piston so no chamber pressure gets back yes you could use a schrader valve wouldn't be very efficient but will work.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:15 pm
by PotatoEnemy17
@ WarHead052 Sure you "can" pilot a large piston with a schrader valve, but if you are looking for performance, power, or good range you probably should use a bigger pilot, And everyone knows that only JSR can get a piston as good as you describe :lol:

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:21 am
by iloveairguns
yea but im building a mini coax airgun so the schrader should be used im not gonna make a spool valve :roll: and what the heck is JSR

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:30 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
PotatoEnemy17 wrote:And everyone knows that only JSR can get a piston as good as you describe :lol:
Ah, but JSR has spread the gospel and made it so that all peoples can make tight tolerance pistons ;)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:02 am
by iloveairguns
jackssmirkingrevenge? is it :idea: by the way how to add a profile image?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:01 pm
by PotatoEnemy17
JSR wrote: Ah, but JSR has spread the gospel and made it so that all peoples can make tight tolerance pistons
I guess i'm just a failure at epoxy! :lol:

And one cross section coming up: