Brazing vs. Welding

A place for general potato gun questions and discussions.
LGM
Specialist 3
Specialist 3
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:06 pm

Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:58 am

In a small Oxy-Fuel launcher, (2" metal chamber, 1" metal barrel) would brazing be an O.K. substitute for welding? This wouldn't be metered or anything, just a long shot of mapp and a blast of oxy. I am asking because I recently aquired a small oxy-mapp hobby torch and I would prefer to braze because it uses less fuel.
User avatar
boilingleadbath
Staff Sergeant 2
Staff Sergeant 2
Posts: 1635
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:35 pm
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:58 pm

I would suspect that you'd be able to get away with brazing, but that would depend on the exact design and joint geometry.
LGM
Specialist 3
Specialist 3
Posts: 320
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:06 pm

Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:28 pm

Well, never mind. I just tried to braze the pieces but the metal is too thick for the torch to handle, I think I'll just see if I can use my neighbor's arc welder.
COD_FILLETS
Specialist
Specialist
Posts: 112
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:48 am

Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:52 pm

LGM wrote:Well, never mind. I just tried to braze the pieces but the metal is too thick for the torch to handle, I think I'll just see if I can use my neighbor's arc welder.
You make it sound so casual, "Soldering isint working on the wires, lemme get my neighbor's arc welder, that should do it".
"If at first you don't succeed... So much for skydiving." - Henry Youngman

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

"I'll Procrastinate Later" - COD_FILLETS
From [url]Quotes4All.net[url]
User avatar
jrrdw
Moderator
Moderator
United States of America
Posts: 6571
Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:11 pm
Location: Maryland
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 22 times
Contact:

Donating Members

Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:42 pm

I wonder if there is a weldingwiki on this here world wide web thingy? Better be a good brazer if your useing high pressers. If your going to use a acr welder don't over heat the metal, just make the two pieces penatrate each other.

EDIT: Opps, three pieces, the rod/wire counts.
User avatar
WOW!!
Corporal 4
Corporal 4
Posts: 891
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: New jersey

Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:22 pm

If you are going to arc it, I would make a couple of passes on some scrap 3/16'' or 1/8'' steel plate. Do a couple of times to were you get to a point were you can get a good solid bead. As for the rods, go with E-6010 rod, it is easy to use and splatters very little. And E-7018 is harder to use but has a higher strength and makes very nice welds on clean metal.

The 60 and 70 on the rod number is the tensile strength, ie 60,000psi and 70,000 psi. The next letter is the position letter, the 1 means that it is a all position rod and the last number is for the current type, like AC or DC.
User avatar
frankrede
Sergeant Major 2
Sergeant Major 2
Posts: 3220
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:47 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 1 time

Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:11 pm

6010 is really ugly.
7018 is a lot funner.and better.
With 7018 try to keep your arc gap at a mininum and use a close zig zag pattern, not circles. 6010 use overlapping circles.
Current project: Afghanistan deployment
Post Reply