So what do you guys think about my new planned cannon??
24" of 4" abs as the chamber.
on the barrel side
4" coupling
4"-3" bushing
3"-1.5" bushing
26" of 1.5" sdr21 pushed all the way into the 1.5" modded bushing
on the other side
4" female adapter
4" male adapt
4"-3" bushing
3"-1.5" bushing
1.5"-1" bushing
1"-1/2" threaded bushing
1/2"-1/4" threaded bushing
small 1/4" nipple
1/4" tee
on one side of the tee
1/2" ball valve
on the other side
1/4" nipple
1/4" tee
on one side of the tee
scherader valve
on the other side
1-100psi gauge
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i know that abs is not pressure rated, which is fine because im only going to take this cannon up to 60psi and no more. not going pvc end of story..hahah
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the piston that im going to use is a 3" end cap with 2 layers of pond liner as the sealing face and i'll stick some type of thick rubber as the bumper.
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when i ggdt this, it comes up with around 350 fps and when i range calc this, i get a max of 170m, does this sound reasonable??
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so im using the 1/2" ball valve as the pilot valve that is going to pilot around 20inches cube, should i go with a 3/4" or 1" ball valve instead?? im not doing a sprinkler valve, too $$ and is too large for my simple design.
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what do you guys think?? i want this to look like one large tube, very retro and simple. comments and etc welcome!
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i think your going to die...what do you guys think
seriously though, i can understand not having access to large pvc pipe, as i am not able to get anything about 2'', but even i wouldnt make a pneumatic out of ABS. it would probably be safe for 60 psi, but i still wouldnt try it.
make a combustion, it would be more powerful with the given chamber and barrel, and not to mention safer.
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dont be an arogant fool dont use abs its not pressure rated for a reason

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Don't combustions pressure spike over 65psi, if so i would reccomend a pneumo if one at all.hi wrote:i think your going to die...what do you guys think
seriously though, i can understand not having access to large pvc pipe, as i am not able to get anything about 2'', but even i wouldnt make a pneumatic out of ABS. it would probably be safe for 60 psi, but i still wouldnt try it.
make a combustion, it would be more powerful with the given chamber and barrel, and not to mention safer.
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That is correct, but a combustion is very quick burst of pressure, but a pneumatic is constant pressure for an extended period of time, even 30 seconds is a very long time compared to a combustion reaction.Novacastrian wrote:Don't combustions pressure spike over 65psi, if so i would reccomend a pneumo if one at all.hi wrote:i think your going to die...what do you guys think
seriously though, i can understand not having access to large pvc pipe, as i am not able to get anything about 2'', but even i wouldnt make a pneumatic out of ABS. it would probably be safe for 60 psi, but i still wouldnt try it.
make a combustion, it would be more powerful with the given chamber and barrel, and not to mention safer.
EDIT: IF you don't want to use PVC, why not use iron pipe? its cheap and strong.
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hi: yeah i have acess to 4" pipe, but i have to buy a 20 foot stick at 38 dollars. i already have a propane combustion, i havent posted it yet.
croix: hahahahha
marco: well i want it to be thick and short (chose like) and iron pipe is heavy as sh!t...but the only reason behind me not using pvc is that i cant get shorter lengths of it and seriously, 20 feet is too long..lol
croix: hahahahha
marco: well i want it to be thick and short (chose like) and iron pipe is heavy as sh!t...but the only reason behind me not using pvc is that i cant get shorter lengths of it and seriously, 20 feet is too long..lol
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I would not recommend using ABS in a pneumatic, full stop. Not only is this a pneumatic, you are using it at 60psi and with 4" piston valve.
Don't do it man, just find some PVC from a plumbing merchant, they should sell off-cuts to you.
Don't do it man, just find some PVC from a plumbing merchant, they should sell off-cuts to you.
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The piece of pipe left over after they have cut a full length upcwazy1 wrote:ahh fine fine, i wont use abs then..
whta are cut offs??
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Yeah go with Mr. Crowley's idea because plumbing wholesalers are abundant in the us and if you happen to have a contractor friend all the better. Although they might not have your length you will almost always be able to buy four inch pipe.
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ohh yeah i can easily get 4" pipe, its just that not many places have cut offs or small sections, but i'll take a look,
but im hoping BC has some cut offs and i can get soem from him.
other than the pipe, what do you guys think about my design??
but im hoping BC has some cut offs and i can get soem from him.
other than the pipe, what do you guys think about my design??
Well we all know that abs is bad for pressure rated but i have to tell you i know a guy who made one from abs. This was a guy who helped me get started with this hobby and he recommended that i use abs as a chamber. When i went to the hardware store they told me abs is not pressure rated and then i went with pvc. I am trying to look for the video on youtube where the comment is. Ill get it soon.
Well i couldnt find the comment but i found a how to video i remeber he made.
If you watch it he says that he used a 3 inch ABS pipe for the chamber

Well i couldnt find the comment but i found a how to video i remeber he made.
If you watch it he says that he used a 3 inch ABS pipe for the chamber
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