Some quick questions
with a qev's large piston to seat ratio opening pressure is going to be far from ideal. it will open way before ideal chamber pressure is reached and you wont have nearly as good of preformace as you would with a burst disk or a with a more optimal homemade piston valve.
becuase of this low opening pressure the popoff will NOT be responsible for opening the valve, as tech said the pisotn will comress the pilot area and the popoff will then open. the popoff will keep the valve open longer which is probably a good idea.
becuase of this low opening pressure the popoff will NOT be responsible for opening the valve, as tech said the pisotn will comress the pilot area and the popoff will then open. the popoff will keep the valve open longer which is probably a good idea.
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so this project should not happen. I did not plan on making this complicated, I just waned an easily changeable cannon system from hybrid to semi pneumatic to full auto pneumatic. I don't want to blow this up; if that ever happened I would be banned from spudding.
here's a quick sketch
here's a quick sketch
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so I'll get a 150psi pop-off and start a 2x
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I am trying to build a pneumatic potato or apple launcher for my corn maze this year. Is the sprinkler valve the best route to take and is a 1" valve big enough? How much holding capacity and at what psi do I need. Also what is a good size barrel for potatoes?
you will want the popoff to be as close to the prignition pressure of the chamber as possibe without it leaking. also 2x will give you preformace easily surpased my a pneumatic with moderate pressureLockednloaded wrote:so I'll get a 150psi pop-off and start a 2x
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awesome, I ordered 3 QEVs off of Mcmasters today, I can't wait until they get here!
on an unrelated side note, has anyone ever pressure tested one of these aluminum sigg bottles?
on an unrelated side note, has anyone ever pressure tested one of these aluminum sigg bottles?
wrong topic sirI am trying to build a pneumatic potato or apple launcher for my corn maze this year. Is the sprinkler valve the best route to take and is a 1" valve big enough? How much holding capacity and at what psi do I need. Also what is a good size barrel for potatoes?
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Yes, a sprinkler valve will do it, but why? You can get a QEV for not much more money and it's a lot better suited for the application, and safer to boot!bhoben wrote:I am trying to build a pneumatic potato or apple launcher for my corn maze this year. Is the sprinkler valve the best route to take and is a 1" valve big enough? How much holding capacity and at what psi do I need. Also what is a good size barrel for potatoes?
Honestly, I just don't grok the popularity of sprinkler valves.
Once you rule out ultimate power as one of your aims I can see appeal in sprinkler valves.
Inline, available in store instead of mail/online order and are plug and play with an electrical switch.
Inline, available in store instead of mail/online order and are plug and play with an electrical switch.
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whats with the completely unrelated hijack?!
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I'm sorry, I don't fully understand. How about a quick sketch for me please?ramses wrote:The solution would be using the exhaust of a pop-off connected to the chamber to open a pilot valve on the QEV.
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I thought I'd bump this because I am now seriously looking into this project.
As far as piston hybrids go, this may not be the most powerful hybrid out there, but it will surely surpass the capabilities of a moderately high pressure pneumatic.
So I plan to build this with the 3/4" QEV and 90 psi pop-off because i have been told that the closer the pop-off is to preignition pressure the better. the gun will be used a 4X mixes.
Any thoughts, objections, or concerns?
As far as piston hybrids go, this may not be the most powerful hybrid out there, but it will surely surpass the capabilities of a moderately high pressure pneumatic.
So I plan to build this with the 3/4" QEV and 90 psi pop-off because i have been told that the closer the pop-off is to preignition pressure the better. the gun will be used a 4X mixes.
Any thoughts, objections, or concerns?
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I have an idea.
You're worried about the qev opening at a lower than optimal pressure due to surface area ratios, right?
A solution might be to modify it to operate in the chamber-sealing configuration, rather than the stock barrel-sealing mode.
Meaning, you patch up the normal equalisation hole and drill one between the pilot area and barrel port. Then put the chamber on the barrel port.
Look what happens to your surface areas.
You're worried about the qev opening at a lower than optimal pressure due to surface area ratios, right?
A solution might be to modify it to operate in the chamber-sealing configuration, rather than the stock barrel-sealing mode.
Meaning, you patch up the normal equalisation hole and drill one between the pilot area and barrel port. Then put the chamber on the barrel port.
Look what happens to your surface areas.
I've never heard anyone use 'grok' in a sentence until a few weeks ago when I read A Stranger in a Strange Land... Now I'm hearing it everywhere.D_hall wrote:Honestly, I just don't grok the popularity of sprinkler valves.
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