TBMA-230 V2.0

Harness the power of precision mixtures of pressurized flammable vapor. Safety first! These are advanced potato guns - not for the beginner.
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Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:23 pm

Nice job! Now take it apart.

Kudos on using the 5-way valve. It's not to its full potential though. It's technically just a 4-way as it is now. Let me make a suggestion.

As long as your valve will work in reverse directions, you can eliminate the manual fuel valve by arranging the port configuration as shown. Your fuel will fill the meter pipe while air is filling the chamber, and in the other position the meter will dump while air is pressurizing the piston. After the shot, it will be in position 1 already, so air will purge the chamber automatically.

The only thing I can think of that may get in the way a little bit is that some of the fuel may escape while the piston is seating. With a little tweaking of the meter pressure, it's probably of no real concern.

Also, you can get rid of the little ball valve at the piston by replacing it with a check valve.

Awesome cannon. I hope this helps to improve it. :)
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Well, the valve protection can also be solved with a check valve.

As for the operation in the 5-way configuration, the chamber wouldn't be pressurized until after the fuel was injected. Since the piston is pulled back after the shot, any air going into the chamber would just be purging until the position is changed and fuel is dumped while simultaneously pressurizing the piston pilot.

This would only work with an air compressor or bottle. I see in the video you are using a hand pump. The way to get around this would be to use the fuel to also actuate the piston. I'm not sure how tight your seals are, so this could either be your fuel injection point or an isolated section where the fuel just leaves as waste when the valve unseats.

As for pricing, yeah, the right check valves can be a bit costly. I've found that the right parts are worth it though. Streamlining everything down to the smallest detail can make things much easier, more fun, and cooler. It's all up to how you wanna do it though. If this isn't your favorite toy, I wouldn't bother.
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Hmmm, too bad. So close, but I guess there's really no way to solve all the quirks.
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:31 pm

Hey.. at least the likelihood of being able to reuse it is higher! Was it over or under 50USD?
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That's CHEAP for ANY 316 SS fitting... you should not feel bad at all!
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OMG it is so awesome... would you be so kind as to post plans of it ?? :D
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Does the spool kick back pretty violently? I'm thinking if making mine a spool valve, but I may have to make a shell around it that protects the shooter
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SpudBlaster15 wrote:
OMG it is so awesome... would you be so kind as to post plans of it ??
Sure, here you go:
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