Single pumping hybrid, "Strong Boy"

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Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:03 pm

I am building this charger to provide future "Strong Boy´s" mono pumping, with a very simple system of loading 1/4 "bb's. :D
The idea is not to complicate the weapon, I want it very simple, but avoid loading the ammunition through the firing cannon with the drumstick. It is what does not conform me much.
It has a Li-Po battery, 7.4 vol, and 850 milliamps, very small, and a key to actuate the solenoid that has a power of about 70 - 80 W. I have used bronze for the tube where the core moves mobile that seals the charger and also opens it. The tube carries bb´s, is copper, and the only thing of steel, is the mobile core. This small cylinder has a 5 mm hole in the center, which is where the gases pass to the cannon, during the explosion. The spring is for the mobile nucleus to return and accommodate, (making a certain force due to the same spring), the ammunition in the retention o'ring.
I will take some pictures when I do the test experiment. 8-)
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Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:19 pm

Successful test run! :D The simple charger works perfectly, makes a metallic sound barely perceptible and most importantly, does not fail.
I have charged about 200 bb´s and the small battery seems to still have a lot of charge. The idea is that in the real weapon, the tube that houses the bb's, is below the barrel and parallel to it. For the tests, I have installed a small and very soft spring, so that it works against gravity. When I have time, I will make a video of the test.
This test weapon is the first one I built, and I am using it to test ideas. I leave a picture of the experiment.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:45 am

Great idea! This way you are not limited to spherical projectiles...

I had tried to make something similar a long time ago where a solenoid pushes a bolt forward simultaneously chambering the projectile while opening a balanced valve but sadly both my materials availability and electronics knowledge failed me. Perhaps it would be worth revisiting now.

Of course you made it work effortlessly, looking forward to the video!
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:04 pm

Hi Jack! Nice to see you here. :D
I saw your drawing and it's good. I think the solution, for your specific case and the power of the solenoid. Many amps will be necessary to overcome the resistance of the o´ring, and little more than that. According to what I have tried, with about 800 w, it would be enough to move your idea.
In my case, all this simple mechanism is inside the combustion chamber, so it has no o´ring, and works with about 7 volts and about 10 amps.
I have not tried using non-spherical ammunition, (because I am designing this exclusively for mono bombeo "throws balls"), but I think it can be adapted without much work, to use pellets.
I comment that the mobile core that seals and opens the tube where the bb's are housed, is responsible for only one bb entering. When the solenoid is activated, it attracts and sticks in it, the bb that has already entered, leaves no place for the next one to enter. Operating the mechanism with the hand, when it opens, 2 or 3 bb's enter, otherwise, when it is activated with electric power, only 1 bb enters, always.
The tube where the bb's are housed, is pressurized and is part of the combustion chamber, because it is the only way to avoid the o´ring, which would require a powerful solenoid, and therefore, a battery and a winding more big, which is not a friend of a small gun.
Lo probé y no es un problema. Cada bb de 1/4" tiene un volumen de 0,14 cm3, y cada una que disparas aumenta el volumen de la cámara de combustión en esa medida. No he apreciado diferencias de ningún tipo, al realizar los disparos, con en tubo de municiones lleno o con solo 1 bb.
Ya subiré el video, pero no es algo espectacular, porque casi no sabes cuando se ha cargado el bb.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:44 pm

Here a video of the operation.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:52 am

hectmarr wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:44 pm
Here a video of the operation.
Wow, the muzzle velocity is much lower than I expected :o

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks great, very inspring! An electro-pneumatic repeater will definitely be on the cards once I get my workshop sorted.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:02 am

Actually the solenoid's mobile core only lets out one at a time, and supports the ball in the center of the retention o'ring. The important thing is to give the position in the center and not move. When compression begins, the air is strong and nails the bb.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:29 am

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I have this idea to introduce the steel balls into the mono pump, without using a ramrod through the barrel.
I made a test weapon, with what I could find in the workshop, and it works correctly. I can't go out looking for materials or buy anything, because they detain and send me to prison for a few days ... The effort is to test the concept with a camera recycled from other weapons, that's what I was able to do.
The one in drawing is as I thought. The piston has a neodymium magnet in the center that captures the bb that enters through a hole in the compression tube, (1). There is always a pre-existing bb in the retention system. On the first shot, two are loaded, one time only.
In (2), it is compressed with the crank, and by compressing the spring, the space for the combustion chamber is created. In (3), the firing is produced, and when the pressure drops to atmospheric pressure, in step (4), on the face of the piston facing the barrel, the spring introduces the bb to be fired into the retention system. The combustion chamber is clean, remaining at zero volume. This avoids having to operate the crank twice to clean.Then everything returns to step (1).
I will make a video to show how it works.
Ideas don't make holes. The weapons yes! ;)
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