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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:09 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
At the moment it's 4.4mm steel BBs and 4mm I/D silicone aquarium tubing.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:16 am
by JDP12
Ah cool. Thanks.
So is there a cartridge prototype curing in the JSR epoxy oven as we speak?? :violent2: (closes emoticon I could get to an oven

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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:25 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
There will be soon, still sipping my morning coffee and sorting through holiday photos for *cough*
facebook *cough*

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:13 am
by JDP12
ahhh alright cool. Looking forward to it! How high of a mix do you expect that tight of a seal to withstand?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:30 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
I've decided to go with a single seal, but curing with a BB already stuck in it. The problem with the first cartridge was that the outer diameter of the seal was identical to the inner diameter of the body, so there wasn't any room for expansion. Should be good for a 7-8x mix, we'll see.
edit: added some pics compared to a 7.62 NATO cartridge, note that I used Araldite, and also you can see the BB in the mouth of the cartridge.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:37 am
by POLAND_SPUD
Should be good for a 7-8x mix
I am afraid that might not cut it... I'd say that there is a rule that detents are a lot stronger than expected oh well, you can always use 15-20X mix

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:40 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Ah feck, I went and tested it early now the seal's popped out

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:20 pm
by SpudFarm
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Ah feck, I went and tested it early now the seal's popped out

That's too bad..
Did it pop out under fueling or the actual combustion pressure?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:31 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Fuelling, it came out with the syringe nozzle.
I might just stop pissing around with this small size and make a 12 gauge shell sized round (similar to one of my
pneumatic cartridge prototypes) chambered in 6mm.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:36 pm
by JDP12
I would be in favor of that. Power will leap incredibly, and then you can make one of these:

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:03 pm
by Gaderelguitarist
Forgive me if this is idiotic in any way, but isn't silicone notoriously difficult to adhere to?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:40 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Gaderelguitarist wrote:Forgive me if this is idiotic in any way, but isn't silicone notoriously difficult to adhere to?
You can chip off bits with a blade and improve its chances of sticking in the same way you would abrade a surface.
I was fully intending to make something but a rather lovely friend from the Motherland is here at the moment and we went out and got completely smashed

let's see if I can cook something up before she recovers.
And yes, a replica of Chigurh's shotgun is definitely on the list
edit: while it would be a plus, I've come to the conclusion that trying to use the projectile seal for filling is not practical. Using some simple parts I managed to make a small check valve that works very well, using some parts from a cigarette lighter valve. Making my n<sup>th</sup> prototype as we speak

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:31 am
by SpudFarm
That will work but ruins the simplicity somehow.
I made a diagram of what I have been thinking about.
The valve is made from a small rod that has a washer on the end (Perhaps you can epoxy it to the rod?) and a small rubber seal of some sort. The chamber electrode can probably be made from a piano wire section or something like that.
The seal can probably be made simpler by slipping a tight fitting rubber tube over the rod on the inside of the chamber, shouldn't need the washer.
I won't work more on it before I have your response to it

It's kind of lacking detail right now.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:47 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Unfortunately, you do lose simplicity, but it's still simple enough to make 15-20 of them which is all I will need really.
As to your idea, quite close to the original
concept 
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:06 am
by SpudFarm
As to your idea, quite close to the original concept
Yes but I think it is the best solution if you can get it to work. Since it was the original idea before you decided to try a projectile checkvalve that didn't work it deserves a try or five
The valve you are thinking about using now can probably be made easier and cheaper by using .22 cartriges with a hole drilled through the back. Just dent it at the "front" to stop the ball bearing from popping into the chamber during fueling.
You won't be asked why you buy so many lighters atleast
Well, good things usually comes from brain storms so I gave it a try.