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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:08 pm
by benstern
clide wrote:benstern wrote:Well then i would prefer a shrouded barrel. IE: a barrel witrh some holes in it inside a larger pipe. Then you don't need to increase barrel length and thus sacrifice performance.
Increasing the barrel length won't sacrifice performance...cutting holes in the barrel would.
Increasing it beyond the optimum length as most people do would wreak havoc on performance due to friction.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:12 pm
by Lentamentalisk
cant we just all agree that the idea doesnt work, so we call it a dead topic, and start a new one if we are going to argue about a shrouded barrel (or just go discuss it on a thread that is already about that, rather than kicking up this thread that has nothing to do with it?
commence ignoring of this thread.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:03 pm
by clide
benstern wrote:
Increasing it beyond the optimum length as most people do would wreak havoc on performance due to friction.
Right, but you shouldn't need to go beyond optimum, just right to optimum.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:11 pm
by benstern
clide wrote:
Right, but you shouldn't need to go beyond optimum, just right to optimum.
But as of yet we have no tools or equations to determine what that optimum point is. Thus most people do beyond it considerably.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:16 pm
by clide
benstern wrote:
But as of yet we have no tools or equations to determine what that optimum point is. Thus most people do beyond it considerably.
GGDT...
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:58 pm
by benstern
GGDT does not take into account silencers. There is not really an "add more volume to barrel than the barrel physically contains" input field.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:21 pm
by clide
We must be talking about different things. I was talking about increasing the barrel length AS a silencer (the idea presented in original post), not increasing the barrel length with a silencer.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:33 am
by psycix
clide wrote:benstern wrote:
Increasing it beyond the optimum length as most people do would wreak havoc on performance due to friction.
Right, but you shouldn't need to go beyond optimum, just right to optimum.
When you go beyond the optimum performance crashes quickly.
Also, when sucking vacuum you may get a bang, but then in reverse. So instead of highpressure in the barrel blasting out to the environment, the environment air smacks into the barrel, a balloon popping in reverse..?