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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:45 am
by MrCrowley
Yeah agreed.
In the video you can hear all this air hissing out after the projectile has left the barrel, this is due to a few things:
1) Sprinkler valve has little flow for such large amounts of air
2) The bends are dead space
3) Short barrel.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:18 am
by Lftndbt
Following JSR's post.. On Chamber volume..
Might be a stupid suggestion but...
Why not add two ball valves, making the two chamber's independent...
Two standard shot's, or open both valve's and get one big shot..
You should have enough volume, to get two good shots out of those chambers.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:59 pm
by daberno123
jackssmirkingrevenge
Thanks I think I will change the position of the valve to where you suggested but probably not until I get replacements for my dwv fittings
Lftndbt
Thats a good idea and I like the sound of two shots without having to refill the chamber
Overall I don't think that I will build this valve, I'll probably just use a regular piston design. I was thinking about using Mr. Crowley's design for a 2" piston valve. The main reason for not building the valve was the excessive use of sheet pvc was not feasible. I was wondering if I could put 2 piston valves on this instead of one. I'm not sure if that would work or not, I haven't seen any guns on here with that design. This is what it would look like with 2 piston valves. Not sure if both would seal though if I filled the tank up through 1 quick disconnect valve.
Below is a very rough sketch of what it would look like with 2 valves
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:26 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
While you seem to enjoy dual setups, I don't think it's worth the effort in terms of performance to make two piston valves, one is more than enough if you make it well - however, as I said earlier, no one's stopping yur putting 4 valves if you so desire.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:33 am
by psycix
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:While you seem to enjoy dual setups, I don't think it's worth the effort in terms of performance to make two piston valves, one is more than enough if you make it well - however, as I said earlier, no one's stopping yur putting 4 valves if you so desire.
Then make a piston valve instead.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:48 am
by Ragnarok
JSR is right.
Dual valves should only be done when you need more flow but can't actually make a bigger valve. One big valve has several advantages over two small ones- less dead space, less turns, etc.
It has some disadvantages too, larger valves are a little harder to construct and have to have a larger total pilot volume, but I'd go for one, not two.
Dual valves has been done, but they're using pre-manufactured valves in a set size. I even think 4 sprinkler valves was done once, but that was a little spurious IMHO.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:00 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Technically speaking, dual valves doubles the rate of flow increase, and would be equivalent to a faster opening valve, but just how much difference that would make and if it would be worth the extra construction complexity is debatable.