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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:58 am
by ALIHISGREAT
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:nothing wrong with being careful ;)
well i can see this is going nowhere and we will never agree :roll:

and now for some slightly more on topic discussion, would you be able to reinforce epoxy pycrete style and would it make a big difference to strength?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:58 am
by SPG
us sniper wrote:Why did you put the magazine in the valve? Why not just do it like the gun JSR just made. That would make it much less complicated to build .
Cos his didn't work? :wink:

Although actually it's to try something different.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:40 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
ALIHISGREAT wrote:would you be able to reinforce epoxy pycrete style and would it make a big difference to strength?
I have done this in the past by mixing wood shavings or similar filler in with the epoxy, it tends to reduce strength but if you're using it as a filler as in SPG's case you can save on a bit of epoxy.
Cos his didn't work?


Well, in the light of recent ideas and developments, perhaps it would have worked if it looked something like this?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:48 am
by ALIHISGREAT
I have done this in the past by mixing wood shavings or similar filler in with the epoxy, it tends to reduce strength but if you're using it as a filler as in SPG's case you can save on a bit of epoxy.
reduces strength? thats wierd :? i wonder why?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:49 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
It depends what tyou're using as a filler, if you use steel mesh for example then the result is stronger

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:52 am
by ALIHISGREAT
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:It depends what tyou're using as a filler, if you use steel mesh for example then the result is stronger
i was planning on using something fiberous although steel mesh is a good idea...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:38 am
by Hotwired
It needs to be a material that is fibrous and tougher than the matrix you're putting it in.

Small flakes don't work. Pykrete is a special case.

If you mixed epoxy with steel wool you'd have a godawfully tough substance.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:05 am
by ALIHISGREAT
If you mixed epoxy with steel wool you'd have a godawfully tough substance.
thats one of the things i was thning abot using, do you think epoxy combined with something like steel wool or mesh would make a strong enough piston for use i a qev at 400psi or will there be a risk of chipping or cracking?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:18 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
assuming it has a rubber bumper it should hold up, how thick would it be though?

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:43 am
by POLAND_SPUD
ALIHISGREAT so you are actually building this....? plizz post your results as soon as it's ready...

wouldn't a solid disc made from rubber work better? you could add something to make it more stiff, like glueing it with a smaller steel disc... but it would be better if JSR commented on this...

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:10 pm
by ALIHISGREAT
POLAND_SPUD wrote:ALIHISGREAT so you are actually building this....? plizz post your results as soon as it's ready...

wouldn't a solid disc made from rubber work better? you could add something to make it more stiff, like glueing it with a smaller steel disc... but it would be better if JSR commented on this...
well i'm not making "this" i'm thinking about modding a qev for higher pressures and i kind of highjacked the topic :oops: and for that a solid rubber disc would work very well (thats why they already have them in :) ) but it would be hard making a perfect disc :( so i am exploring other ideas like an epoxy piston which would need reinforcement or a plastic piston (teflon maybe) cut from a rod (which would solve the 'perfect disc' problem) but there are many things i need to think about first like the thickness of the piston already in the qev and if its worth increasing the thickness for use with higher pressures etc. maybe i will open up my qev tomorow and have a look :) but as i do not want to invade SPG's thread any longer if you wish to discuss this more can you please post in my '400psi ultra valve' thread

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/400psi- ... rt,15.html

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:36 pm
by TwitchTheAussie
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:I don't really have any secrets here, forums are for sharing :)
I do believe so far Ive uncovered two illegitimate children. And not knowing where ya live. Thats a bit weird :?