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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:27 am
by flamerz14
damn. You just can't make the same gun over and over but even smexier can't you BTB?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:29 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
flamerz14 wrote:even smexier
Perhaps a thong and sombrero
by the way your signature pic is missing an "h"
...aside from being far too big
Size of file: 2268.15 kB (2322581 bytes)

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:27 am
by Brian the brain
damn. You just can't make the same gun over and over but even smexier can't you BTB?
Yes I can if I sell them
Where did you get that sleek QEV?
You can reach them by pm-ing...ME 8)
Damage shots will have to come from the buyers.I want to keep this thing new and clean.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:40 am
by POLAND_SPUD
you are really charging them 200 euro for each ?? obviosly they don't know how much does it cost to make one....
is it legal for you to sell them ? I'd try selling spudguns myself but in poland you can only sell airguns that are below 16 J....
oh come on BTB, respectable gunsmiths tes his products before selling them

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:53 am
by Brian the brain
QEV´s are not available in holland, only to professionals.I had to start a business to get them
It costs me around 70 euro´s .It costs me about 1,5 hours to get is all together.I have to MAKE a fitting from scratch, adapt a fitting, shape the ballvalve handle, and pressure test the gun.
19% goes to tax, and half of the remaining profit goes to tax in the form of INCOME tax...HALF!
I sell them for 150 to a middleman who knows these guys..
I do not charge them too much
in fact I hardly make a profit, and with a local plumbers hourly rate, you could consider this charity.
I know everything in Poland is a lot cheaper, but wages are lower as well.
Over here, people can afford this and are not bad off.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:56 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
19% goes to tax, and half of the remaining profit goes to tax in the form of INCOME tax...HALF!
god you're an honest bloke

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:03 am
by Brian the brain
Now that I´m official, I´m kinda bound to this.
I feel I should be making more profit than the freaking government, but appearently they like the fact they make more than me on what I do...
That is probably why it's legal.
Silly I have to charge an extra 20 for every 10 I want.
Under the counter would be hard since they can check my buys
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:14 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
again, I'm surprised at you honesty... ah well
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:17 am
by Brian the brain
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again, I'm surprised at you honesty... ah well
and I´m pretty too!!
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:07 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
btb which fitting you made from the scratch, the one joined with the barrel ?
well I suppose that wages are lower but on the other hand it won't cost 70 euro to make one in poland... I suppose that it would be about 30 - 35 euro max for parts.
I don't get it.. why you always say that QEVs can be bought only by professionals ? what do you mean by that?
it is just a suggestion you know but without all those taxes you would make a nice profit

Re: BTB sawed-off mark II
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:15 pm
by Ragnarok
Brian the brain wrote:I believe Ragnarok used them at 35 bar right??
No, I've not gone past 22 bar yet. I know they have been used at 28 bar, and I'm planning on trying for 30 bar soon (if I can fix the leak I created earlier trying to upgrade HEAL...).
They have also been (allegedly) tested to around about 60 bar, with unregged CO2 by al-xg though. Not sure I'd be happy about trying that myself though.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:34 pm
by OuchProgramme
Ooo...
If i may ask, what shotgun ammo are you going propel?
Is it just a buckshot? Or is it single?
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:52 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
every weekend I fire at least 20 shots with my QEV gun at 350 psi .... and it works fine
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:31 pm
by al-xg
I've shot 58bar HPA through my 3/4" QEV 'bout 30 times this weekend its still fine...
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:49 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
wow al-xg !!

I am impressed care to post some vids of your gun at those pressure?