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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:13 pm
by STHORNE
its a price we all have to pay my friend (if you own a hybrid that is)

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:18 pm
by SpudFarm
_Fnord i thinking of getting a pipe the size of the burst disks and just put them in a hydraulic press and make like 1000 at 5seconds :)

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:22 pm
by Fnord
That's not a bad idea actually.

its a price we all have to pay my friend (if you own a hybrid that is)
Not me. I'm above the law! Muahaha.
I just have to fix crap that breaks due to ridiculous mechanical stresses.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:27 pm
by bigbob12345
sthorne wrote:its a price we all have to pay my friend (if you own a hybrid that is)
Or a burst disk pnumatic

And spudfarm I actually really like that idea but I would use a vice instead and clamp it down as hard as I can.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:29 pm
by SpudFarm
i got a 10ton hydraulic press so clamping power = no problem :D

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:40 pm
by STHORNE
bigbob12345 wrote:
sthorne wrote:its a price we all have to pay my friend (if you own a hybrid that is)
Or a burst disk pnumatic
or that. and technically, wouldn't a "burst disk pneumatic" just be an advanced pneumatic?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:59 pm
by DYI
Um, you use unrated abs at 500 psi
:lol: Well, make that 50 times the rated pressure... I'm pretty sure that I significantly exceed the burst pressure of the barrel pipes, it's amazing how long they've survived, even in subzero temperatures with heavy (and often completely jammed :roll: ) ammo.
and technically, wouldn't a "burst disk pneumatic" just be an advanced pneumatic?
No. When you're talking about a pneumatic, the valve is the defining component, and a lot of valves fall into the so-called "advanced" category, anything homemade really.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:18 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:09 am
by DYI
DYI, 2" nominal diameter Sch 40 DWV ABS pipe should (assuming no molding defects) have a burst pressure of around 1000PSI, so I am not surprised that it resists <500PSI for only a few tens of milliseconds.
Well that's certainly good to know. I'd always assumed it was lower, with all the talk of it bursting at around 150 psi... I guess just another unbased assumption like the whole "mixes over 4x risk detonation" thing. What's the burst pressure of 4" SCH 40 ABS? I may not have to reinforce that barrel after all...

And I'm using DWV copper for the barrel on my hybrid, so no worries there (I hope).

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:45 am
by SpudFarm
no DYI i also use some really thin walled copper for my hybrid and it is fine :)
BTW with your hybrid are you thinking to go up to like 10x ?

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:26 pm
by DYI
The goal for my hybrid is 10x air/MAPP. After hydrostatic testing to 1500 psig, 10x will be the normal operating mix. Due to the nature of my meter, I don't expect that fueling will be incredibly accurate below 4x or so, and I see no real reason to use anything other than full power, except maybe for shooting in my yard.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:28 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:41 pm
by DYI
Thanks. I'll probably reinforce it anyway, because I don't want to risk accidentally bursting a $90 chunk of pipe.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:34 pm
by SpudFarm
whhhoa 10x :shock:
you should get to mach two :P

my goal for all of my cannons/hybrids is SOS.
a GB at the speed of sound should be interesting...