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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:59 am
by starman
Lentamentalisk wrote:It depletes the ozone layer. Wikipedia
Wiki is spewing the same old drivel from almost 20 years ago. Ozone depletion by freon has never been proven to this day.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:49 am
by Ragnarok
sv490665 wrote:one person even making a lifetime habit of sending bad stuff into the environment won't even make a fraction of a difference, you know how huge the ozone is?
OK, now imagine that hundreds of millions of people have the same attitude, and that's why the world is going down the craphole.

People think: "Oh, I'm just one person, I won't make any difference."
Yeah, but if everyone thinks that way, it does make a difference.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:01 am
by POLAND_SPUD
hmmm I didn't have any objections to release freon.... yep I know it's bad for the enviroment and stuff but you know if I hadn't done that it would leak out anyway after 10 years....

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:55 am
by TurboSuper
Is America really a huge problem with freon pollution these days? I thought it came more from developing countries like China and such...

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:29 am
by Sticky_Tape
China has soo much polution it's not even funny. People have to wear face masks over there.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:37 am
by POLAND_SPUD
well at least 30% of stuff you find at shops is from china...

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:06 am
by homedepotpro
I'm sorry but I feel my thread has been hijacked. I really haven't gotten one legitimate answer to my question. This is a forum for the construction of pneumatic devises. Thank you though MrCowley for educating me by directing me to that article.

btw i haven't really been truthful to you guys, I need it as a vacuum pump, so I can make more of these:
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:39 am
by sniper hero
My fridge is going away soon but my parents won't let me have it because of the freon
I have got no idea how the hell I can make sure I can have it and get the compressor out

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:48 am
by Davidvaini
Idk but this is jut an idea

HCFC-22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCFC-22

I was reading a wiki page on Green Gas (gas used for airsoft guns)
and it mentioned red gas (another airsoft gas product)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_gas

It said this,

"Products advertised as being more powerful than Green Gas are typically Red Gas, correctly known as HCFC-22."

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:59 am
by Sticky_Tape
Isn't green gass propane?

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:02 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
it's propane + silicone oil (or something like that)


sorry for off topic posts - I have no idea how to deal with the problem... of course you could use a balloon to collect to freon... in this way it won't harm anything :wink:


you have two choices - either pay a lot of $ to do it in a proper way or simply cut it out releasing freon.... it's up to you...

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:36 pm
by MrCrowley
homedepotpro wrote:I'm sorry but I feel my thread has been hijacked. I really haven't gotten one legitimate answer to my question.
Agreed, I know i've been guilty of hijacking it also but that wasn't my intention.

BTW, I've just searched Google trying a few search terms and I can't find a legal way to remove freon without getting it done properly for a fee. It's not looking good.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:38 pm
by CpTn_lAw
starman wrote:
Lentamentalisk wrote:It depletes the ozone layer. Wikipedia
Wiki is spewing the same old drivel from almost 20 years ago. Ozone depletion by freon has never been proven to this day.

The fact that it hasn't be proven doesn't mean it doesn't contribute to its depletion. - If we adapt this reasoning, it has never been proven that smoking weed creates a severe psychological dependance, but you just have to go out and see it by yourself.-
Anything you can do to prevent such a thing is a plus for you and everybody on this planet.

To return on topic, I can imagine a way that would prevent freon from spewing out., if you can manage a way to mesure the volume of the circuit, and the pressure of the gas inside, you have a global idea of what volume of freon there is; right? So basicly, you make a small cut in a pressure pipe, find some way to block (pressing your thumb on it?) the freon, and quickly put a balloon on the cut. It might be ghetto, but the gas will pour out in the balloon, and very little amount will be released in the air. Once your gas is fully released in the inflated balloon, you make a knot and try to find out a way to get rid of it, environmently friendly of course.

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:08 pm
by Davidvaini
yes green gas is propane with lube, im talking about red gas... red gas looks to be freon 22

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:40 pm
by starman
CpTn_lAw wrote:
starman wrote:
Lentamentalisk wrote:It depletes the ozone layer. Wikipedia
Wiki is spewing the same old drivel from almost 20 years ago. Ozone depletion by freon has never been proven to this day.

The fact that it hasn't be proven doesn't mean it doesn't contribute to its depletion. - If we adapt this reasoning, it has never been proven that smoking weed creates a severe psychological dependance, but you just have to go out and see it by yourself.-
Anything you can do to prevent such a thing is a plus for you and everybody on this planet.
Huhhhh? Your statements here are nonsensicle. It hasn't been proven.

It's up to the proponent of a theory to observe and prove it, and peers to repeat the observance...it's not the job of the skeptic to disprove an unproven theory.