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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:44 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Very well made, love the attention to detail and the style in general.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:36 am
by spudamine
very nice cannon there, it really takes some dedication to finish something to that kind of standard without taking shortcuts.
A strap sounds like a nice addition, I think that would work very well with a laser instead of your current optics.
One point from your post:
calling any spudgun a “sniper” (any that I’ve seen to date) is not only inaccurate, but it demonstrates a lack of respect as to what the term means.
I think this is a bit harsh, I dont thing anybody actually intends to go to war with their creations, its just a way of classifying them and showing people what there main design goals are, in this case accuracy.
Yes sniper refers to the role whereas sniper rifle refers to the weapon, but as you said yourself we can't call them the latter if they're not rifled. What terminology would you like instead, 'long barrelled smoothbored pneumatic launcher with optical sighting accessories and other additions designed to enhance accuracy slightly over a normal spudgun' , doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it :lol:

Re: The Gauntlet of Clara Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:57 am
by Ragnarok
Very impressive. Your short thesis didn't exactly leave me with many questions, so I'll go off on an unimportant rant or two...

IMO, it's not quite "steampunk" - steampunk is a bit more than just painting something in a copper paint.
And being completely honest, I'm a little too familiar with copper that I could be fooled - I opened this thread and immediately thought "Copper paint". It's not bad, but copper doesn't actually look like that at any degree of polish or oxidisation.

Actually, to be steampunk, you'd do better with brass, but what it's really missing is all the little fiddly details, like completely unnecessarily routed tubing and gear trains. If you could replace the ball valve handles with completely superfluous levers or what my father calls "bus steering wheels". (Any time there's a huge valve that needs to be opened in a film - usually to release explosive gas - there WILL be a huge steering wheel like valve handle. Ball and butterfly valves are evidently unheard of in Hollywood). In this case, it would just be an overly large circular valve handle.

Still a nice appearance, but not quite steampunk in my mind.
No this is not a “sniper rifle” I realize it has a scope and I realize it has respectable medium to long range accuracy and power, but first off it is not rifled so it is not a “rifle” and second calling any spudgun a “sniper” (any that I’ve seen to date) is not only inaccurate, but it demonstrates a lack of respect as to what the term means.
It may not be correct as to call it a sniper or sniper rifle, but I think being picky over it is will be to no avail, someone else will insist on calling their creation so, regardless of what you say.

And I think any of us, whether or not we agree with the naming, at least have some kind of desire for or pretence at such a thing when we strap a scope to our creations. I know I did.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:37 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
With the media calling deranged gunmen armed with assault rifles spraying bullets at less than 100 metre ranges "snipers", I don't think that spudders can be accused of bringing dishonour to the name. If nothing else, as Rag mentioned sooner or later we all desire to emulate the craft of the professional sniper with our creations.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:39 am
by VH_man
By the way, This gun has Convinced me to Make El Bambino a steampunk Style gun.....

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:49 am
by POLAND_SPUD
it's hard not to notice that you are interested with steampunk..... :-D great gun and impressive attention to details

Re: The Gauntlet of Clara Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:53 am
by starman
Ragnarok wrote:so I'll go off on an unimportant rant or two...

IMO, it's not quite "steampunk" - steampunk is a bit more than just painting something in a copper paint.
And being completely honest, I'm a little too familiar with copper that I could be fooled - I opened this thread and immediately thought "Copper paint". It's not bad, but copper doesn't actually look like that at any degree of polish or oxidisation.

Actually, to be steampunk, you'd do better with brass, but what it's really missing is all the little fiddly details, like completely unnecessarily routed tubing and gear trains. If you could replace the ball valve handles with completely superfluous levers or what my father calls "bus steering wheels". (Any time there's a huge valve that needs to be opened in a film - usually to release explosive gas - there WILL be a huge steering wheel like valve handle. Ball and butterfly valves are evidently unheard of in Hollywood). In this case, it would just be an overly large circular valve handle.

Still a nice appearance, but not quite steampunk in my mind.
...Yes an unimportant rant...Rag, I think you're being a little legalistic here. He said it was influenced by steampunk. Also, steampunk, like art deco, gothic, etc. is as much a look as it is material.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:04 am
by Radiation
Rag, so I can call it a sniper rifle, but not steampunk? :lol: Just giving you a hard time. :D

BTW didn't you see the breech load coupler? There is brass in the design. 8)

I am sick of trying to download to youtube, instead I'm using another service that seems to be working (crosses fingers) we'll have video goodness in one form or another shortly!

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:13 am
by starman
Radiation wrote:I am sick of trying to download to youtube, instead I'm using another service that seems to be working (crosses fingers) we'll have video goodness in one form or another shortly!
It's possible you took your videos at too high a resolution. I had trouble trying to post some HD vids some time ago and ended up having to retake them in a lower res...they uploaded fine then.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:14 am
by Radiation
I'm not the most savvy video editor. I don't even know where to start on how to lower the resolution. Is there a mac compatible program capable of doing that?

Re: The Gauntlet of Clara Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:41 am
by Ragnarok
starman wrote:He said it was influenced by steampunk.
I wasn't necessarily talking to Radiation.
Also, steampunk, like art deco, gothic, etc. is as much a look as it is material.
Steampunk is about brass, dulled iron, leather and stained woods arranged in a certain style. It doesn't have to be those materials, but it does really need to look like it is - and there needs to be that certain arrangement of parts and style. Exposed working parts doesn't hurt. ;)
If this was all in white, no-one would even hint at steampunk. This is relying almost solely on some copper paint, and personally, I can't see copper, I can only see painted PVC.

Now, this on the other hand...
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Radiation wrote:Rag, so I can call it a sniper rifle, but not steampunk?
You can call it whatever you like, I can't stop you.
But I personally, being the pedantic type, probably wouldn't be calling it either.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:44 am
by starman
Radiation wrote:I'm not the most savvy video editor. I don't even know where to start on how to lower the resolution. Is there a mac compatible program capable of doing that?
You got me hangin' there...I avoid the Mac whenever possible... :wink:

IMTOO makes a bunch of video convertion tools that seem to work pretty well....they even have Mac products as well.... 8)

Re: The Gauntlet of Clara Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:50 am
by starman
Ragnarok wrote:But I personally, being the pedantic type, probably wouldn't be calling it either.
Influenced...influenced ..he was influenced...can't a man be influenced....oh the humanity....(just saw the Hindenburg crash footage again last night)... :wink:

Edit: Oops, sorry 'bout the DP...

Re: The Gauntlet of Clara Ann

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:29 pm
by Ragnarok
starman wrote:...can't a man be influenced...
Sure. I could do a piece of art that was influenced by Van Gogh. Doing that doesn't then automatically make it:
  • a) Van Gogh's actual work
    b) Van Gogh himself
    c) As good as his work.
    d) A reasonable imitation of his style
    e) Or for that matter, any good at all.
:D
In the same manner, being influenced by steampunk does not steampunk make. ;)

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:54 pm
by Radiation
OK back on topic. My steampunk sniper rifle unicorn gun is posted on you tube for one video!

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the is three 2x10 boards stacked together. Think long distance nail gun. ;)

**EDIT** Audio live!!! Wo0t

many thanks markfh11q!