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Carlman wrote:isnt that a dwv T?

I am thinking the same thing. DWV

SubsonicSpud wrote:

Carlman wrote:isnt that a dwv T?

I am thinking the same thing. DWV

I'm thinking the title of the thread fits.

Technician1002 wrote:

SubsonicSpud wrote:

Carlman wrote:isnt that a dwv T?

I am thinking the same thing. DWV

I'm thinking the title of the thread fits.

Ha ha, thats funny


jmccalip

I would replace that tee before constructing any more of the cannon. DWV (Drain, Waste and Vent) PVC is not pressure rated, and can rupture causing shrapnel, particularly with the added stress of such a heavy piston.

SubsonicSpud

Yep. They're right, ditch it unless you plan on using the cannon at around 10 psi. While it's a let it slide on spray 'n prays, DWV is a straight out no-no on pneumatics.

DWV fittings are characterized by sockets extending out for the pipe, while pressure rated ones stay pretty constant all the way through. They also tend to have DWV written on them and may be a different color.

Look for pipe with "nsf-pw" on it (it's for potable water, as in what you drink. That's pressurized, so it naturally holds pressure) or a pressure rating. It will be written as XX psi @ XX temperature. In some other places like UK/AUS it will be a class, which is a number 1-20 something. The number is how many bar of pressure it will hold. I can't remember the other one..

I was just about to mention that Carlman. The tee your using is DWV, I'm not just saying that from the shape, but the sockets on it are very short. If I was you I'd switch that out and cut back your guide pipe distance. If you get a pressure rated tee and make the female adapter flush flush with it. The pool noodle alone will be fine I think. You want to cut down as much as possible on how far that slides. I'd aim for 1/4".

EDIT: People jumped on this quick haha.

Thanks for letting me know about the DWV Tee, I was just following that instructables guide.

I reworked the piston and got it down to 1lb, 2oz. I think I can get it down even lower, I just need to borrow a 1" drill from work.





On a side note, I better replace that DWV elbow...

I'm trying to be safe with this, I thought(they weren't labeled at HD) those were sch 40. Anways, I am running a 50ft air hose out of the back, and I will split that at the end with a y, so I can remotely fill and fire this thing.

They can be sch 40, that does not mean its presure rated. Look for NSF-PW. It stands for blah blah blah -PRESSURE water

Hollowing the piston is fine, but you should seal off the hollow portion, or you will be increasing piloted volume.

It has that "familiar" look.

Gippeto wrote:Hollowing the piston is fine, but you should seal off the hollow portion, or you will be increasing piloted volume.

It has that "familiar" look.

Sorry for all the questions everyone! I've made too many mistakes to redo anything else.

Can I get away with using a pilot volume this large if I vent it with a 1" sprinkler valve? Or maybe I should use a 1" ball valve instead, the sprinkler might restrict the flow. Anyways, I need a large pilot volume to house the extra large bumper.

A 1" sprinkler valve is a way better pilot valve than a ball valve of any size. With o-ring seals you could get by with the extra pilot volume.

I'd really suggest going smaller, 1" sprinkler will be fine. You wouldn't need such a big bumper if you cut the space down that the piston slides because it wouldn't have time to accelerate.

jmccalip wrote:Thanks for letting me know about the DWV Tee, I was just following that instructables guide.

If you are following this one;
http://www.instructables.com/id/Colossa ... on-valved/

They had the same failure you are about to have without modifications.

It broke twice. Pictures at the bottom of the page
http://www.instructables.com/id/S67VTL2F5LD8J8D/

I had a couple sched 40 PVC piston cannons fail.

See photos on the bottom of the page. This type of common cannon failure is one of the big reasons I built an ABS DWV test air cannon for comparison to PVC. It's in a separate thread. I do not recomend using DWV for air cannons. Mine was just a test. I did like the results It has outlived several PVC cannons.

***EDIT***
On the 2 inch piston valve page, they do show the use of the PVC DWV fittings.. I wonder if the page can be edited and updated by the owner to show the proper parts.

***EDIT***

rp181 wrote:They can be sch 40, that does not mean its presure rated. Look for NSF-PW. It stands for blah blah blah -PRESSURE water

So true. My ABS Cellular Core DWV cannon is schedule 40, but not pressure rated. It only has Schedule 40 thickness in the walls.

you said that you replaced the elbow... you still whould replace the tee... i did the same thing

a very good source of pressure rated parts on the cheap is www.flexpvc.com

Alright, I stopped by the local plumbing supply...

Do ya'll DWV freaks approve of this tee???

It looks like everything is pressure rated. I can't wait to see this gun in action!