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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:05 am
by Gippeto
You'll need:
An adjustable flat top piston, a barrel cut and crowned at 20" open up the transfer port, steel breech, poly tube mod, extensive valve work, lighter valve spring, heavier hammer spring and a hammer spring power adjuster (let's you use the spring to its utmost), and a hardened steel pump pin.
I also use extended probes on the bolt to ensure the pellet is ahead of the transfer port.
It winds up being more of a carbine, but the performance is there at 25 pumps.

It's proven to be "quite" effective.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:14 am
by jon_89
Okay thats a little to much for me. Out of curiosity can the 1377 be turned into a pcp? I think I have seen it just cant remember where.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:37 am
by Gippeto
It's an easy afternoon's work (play).
A pcp of sorts anyway.
A tube can be fabricated to replace the pump head assembly, which can either be used as a lower pressure (1000psi) chamber, or to allow connection to a bulk tank.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:49 pm
by spudmanb3
@ jon_89: I considered the american classic, but after reading reviews decided that it wasn't very sturdy.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:59 pm
by THUNDERLORD
Gippeto wrote:...It winds up being more of a carbine, but the performance is there at 25 pumps.

It's proven to be "quite" effective.

It would be cool, But myself, (and I'm fairly athletic),
I'd need to rest after 25 pumps.
I'd prefer the already brute 700fps from a single motion and loading to that.
Breathe...exhale...inhale...exhale half way...steady, aim, squeeze, fire...
That's my technique.
How am I going to have a steady shooting platform after
25 Pumps???

8)
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:31 am
by Gippeto
If that wears you out, I don't know what to tell you. It doesn't bother me to have a target session that last an hour or more.
And I suspect I'm a good bit older than you.
You should try driving my tractor (1946 MH-30 GR...strong arm steering) with a full bucket of dirt. My last "session" was 7 hours. (landscaping) That'll put meat on your bones.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:50 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Seriously?
Sweet
If that wears you out, I don't know what to tell you. It doesn't bother me to have a target session that last an hour or more.
It depends on the pistol, my
HW45 (That's Beeman P1 for you 'merican types

) will strain the arms after an extended session, and that's only one stroke per shot.
I should get a prize for really making the effort at making no attempt at innuendo
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:59 am
by Gippeto
That's the one.
Jeese, Jack, don't you have anything better to do??
You ARE good at it though.

(Stick with your strengths eh?)
Your restraint is duly noted.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:14 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Gippeto wrote:Jeese, Jack, don't you have anything better to do?
Yes, specifically betamethasone methylorthovalerate, but it's only 8 in the morning here and I've been at work for 3 hours already, I deserve a break

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:52 am
by Gippeto
Itch cream?
I won't say it.
Walking away now.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:07 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
I meant
manufacture the stuff, not apply it

heheheh
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:02 pm
by spudmanb3
Recieved my pellet gun in the mail yesterday, pretty fast shipping! It is very well made, very heavy, has grooves for a scope, fully adjustable rear sites, fiber optic front and rear. It also has an auto- engaging saftey. it has a plastic reciever, but it is still sturdy. rear site wiggles a little. very light trigger pull. The thing is a bear to cock. it would be impossible to cock without the barrel extender. I press it against a solid surface to cock it. pulling the barrel down is hard, but pushing it back into place is rather easy. I destroyed a milk jug with it, and have flattend some pellets with it so far.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:08 pm
by THUNDERLORD
Reminded me of the guy who put KY jelly in his homemade pressure pump, Then started a thread not to that because it hardened and destroyed his pump..."Don't ask, don't tell" policy came to mind...
That HW 45 (P1) Looks sweet! I'd put some soft rubber finger gooved grips on it, or hardwood similar though myself.
Or (not my style but) pearl w/silver or nickel plated, w/ polished stainless scope?-might look cool.
I meant that after the charging effort, the heart rate increases probably and the shooting platform will be more shaky...course CO2 or PCP's can be inconsistent depending on fill levels...they claim it IS consistent, but I never found that to be the case.
@Gippeto, Nice tractor, My buddy's broke down so we were using his PUSH mower..."Need...that... tractor...!!!"
He's restoring one, I can't understand it, ...Restore a motorcycle, or build a small aircraft instead, But he's always liked tractors... 8)
EDIT:
spudmanb3 wrote:Recieved my pellet gun in the mail yesterday, pretty fast shipping! It is very well made, very heavy, has grooves for a scope, fully adjustable rear sites, fiber optic front and rear. It also has an auto- engaging saftey. it has a plastic reciever, but it is still sturdy. rear site wiggles a little. very light trigger pull. The thing is a bear to cock. it would be impossible to cock without the barrel extender. I press it against a solid surface to cock it. pulling the barrel down is hard, but pushing it back into place is rather easy. I destroyed a milk jug with it, and have flattend some pellets with it so far.
Coincedence I was posting here same time...Any Pics???
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:22 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
THUNDERLORD wrote:That HW 45 (P1) Looks sweet! I'd put some soft rubber finger gooved grips on it, or hardwood similar though myself.
Or (not my style but) pearl w/silver or nickel plated, w/ polished stainless scope?-might look cool.
The P1 takes any grips that fit the M1911, I was flirting with the idea of getting Pachymar style rubber grips and having an adapter made to fit the carbon fibre Airstream silencer from my Mk.3 as in the attached mock-up picture, but at the end of the day I prefer the "classic" look and the red dot sight usually stays off.