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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:51 pm
by adem70
jack, it doesnt appear that theres a vortex in that gun. I was asking if you could use the popoff system and then have the bursts from that go into the vortex block, but with the same amount of power as just a vortex block would have, thus giving the vortex style of loading a burst fire mode.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:52 pm
by ramses
most likely, although you would need a large "buffer chamber"
performance would be greatly enhanced with a popoff and qev type setup.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:40 pm
by Brian the brain
Qev+ pop-off works perfectly well with a vortex chamber.
Then rate of fire can be adjusted by squeezing the flow with a small valve.
Tried it last year, and it worked...No problem.
My problem is, I want it to be independant and configured in a compact and nice way.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:56 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
it seem to me that you are looking for a BBMG with a detent... with it you could get lower ROF but with more power per shot...
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:16 pm
by adem70
@ramses What exactly is a buffer chamber?
@brian, is a poppoff + qev what jack linked? or is it something different, what is a qev anyway?
@poland spud what is a detent exactly?
Sorry guys I'm a noobie..
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:00 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
adem70 wrote:Sorry guys I'm a noobie..
Appreciated, but this forum has a

and a
Search Feature, the use of which will easily answer your questions

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:03 pm
by jmadden91
QEV is a Quick Exhaust Valve, seen on many launchers here. The QEV + Pop Off configuration can be seen
Here and
Here. There are a few more but thats just two examples that come to mind
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:03 pm
by adem70
I looked on the wiki, and i couldnt find anything about a buffer chambers, poppoffs, qevs or detents o,o?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:06 pm
by jmadden91
Didnt look very
hard...
Edit: fixed link

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:09 pm
by adem70
madden. then think doesnt have any words on it. it just says "there is no text in this article."
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:10 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
QEV wiki article
A
detent is a device such as a tight o-ring or a spring loaded ball in the breech that resists the motion of the projectile before it starts down the barrel, this stops it from rolling out before firing and allows pressure to build up behind it before it starts to move, increasing power and allowing rate of fire to be varied to some extent.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:14 pm
by adem70
so a Qev is just ike a poppoff valve to some extent?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:17 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
No, a pop-off valve actuates when a certain volume is reached. A QEV on the other hand fires when its pilot chamber is emplied,
just like a piston valve.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:21 pm
by jmadden91
adem70 wrote:madden. then think doesnt have any words on it. it just says "there is no text in this article."
hahah whoops sorry mate, well its the link jsr linked for you.
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:22 pm
by adem70
madden, none of the links you sent work, i can't see any of em.