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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:02 pm
by Hotwired
POLAND_SPUD wrote:Hotwired wrote:POLAND_SPUD wrote:I'd go as far as to say that you can't build a gun that isn't a 3 way valve gun.
Hammer valves.
I don't think you've read my post.
I read your post.
The impression I was taking was that you were saying you needed a 3 way valve as the primary valve to do any of the things the originally posted gun was doing.
Now, I don't think you're making a meaningful point.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:32 pm
by twizi
oh crap
did you see the chronograph 770 fps it say they will have a pressure release valve but with easy super glue your rifle could shoot that
It's decided i must buy one
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:35 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
you wrote
I read your post
but you responded with
Hammer valves
Even though I wrote
Even if you've got a simple BV pneumatic you still need a check valve or another ball valve to fill the chamber - so you can't say that there is just a 2 way valve
This is true even for hammer valves - first you have to fill the chamber - and again that requires a valve... so you need that one and a hammer valve
making a meaningful point
you're doing it wrong
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:25 pm
by Hotwired
I missed that you mentioned hammer valves.
But that was actually nothing to do with what I meant.
However re-reading it, you're talking about simplifying pneumatics as a 3-port valve.
Which was in reply to al-xg saying 3-way valves venting air was wasteful.
I picked up the wasteful bit - which you were not replying to at all despite quoting it - and mention hammer valves.
Hence the confusing reply.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:57 am
by Ragnarok
twizi wrote:they will have a pressure release valve but with easy super glue your rifle could shoot that
I imagine they might have had the common sense to use a more sophisticated valve than that. Just off the top of my head, I can think of three ways of designing it so that jamming the pressure release would stop the whole thing working.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:22 am
by al-xg
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al-xg saying 3-way valves venting air was wasteful
Now I'm confused
I'm guessing you meant bobgengeskahn.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:01 pm
by Hotwired
Uhhh, yes I do.
/gives up trying to make a coherent post
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:26 am
by bobgengeskahn
... this has all gotten very confusing...
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:45 pm
by Molybdenum
Its supposedly closed bolt, so I would guess a system like legion shocker;
http://www.zdspb.com/media/tech/animati ... r_7fps.gif
I also believe that the price may keep this from becoming to mainstream or widely used. Many airsofters have become to used to cheap aegs to be willing to shell out for something like this.
