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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:24 am
by pneumaticcannons
Look at what just arrived

took nearly 2 weeks to get here though
For those of yous who don't know what an ATtiny is, they are essentially micro arduinos capable of executing simple programs. Now I can finally get on with this hunk of plastic and epoxy.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:58 pm
by Spudrookie
pneumaticcannons wrote:Apologies for the long delay in-between updates, I got distracted:
I recently got the ignition system working 100%
I had also gotten the new and improved ejection mech working but of course, minutes before making the video, one little metal part broke deeming the entire mechanism useless. Oh well
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All shots were done at 5x mixes
Pneumaticcannons, you're into RC planes too. I love building, not that much of a buyer. I also use Realflight alot.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:49 am
by pneumaticcannons
^ Yeah, i don't like buying much either, hence the ghetto plane. lol
Concerning this project, I've run into a problem. The solenoid which operates the piston runs from a minimum of 24v. I plan to run the ATtiny and other stuff from a 7.4v LiPo battery. Does anyone who knows a bit about electronics have a voltage step up or even a voltage doubler (I could use a 12v batt also) that they prefer? I have been looking at the
MAX618 but am wondering if there is a simpler (8 pin or less) step up I could use. Thanks again.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:54 pm
by evilvet
voltage step up or even a voltage doubler
Any basic non-inverting 741 op-amp circuit would do, this would be a starting point for the datasheet:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee122/Par ... _AN-31.pdf
And a random google link that explains it a bit more:
http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2 ... p-circuit/
Cheers
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:06 am
by Squidjuiceonastick
sorry this may seem like a derp question but i don't think its worth making another thread about it
How whats your ignition source? in terms of your ignition circuit?
i can't get a taser and i've tried making an induction coil and i need a lot of camera's if im going to use there capacitors for a decent spark
how did you do yours?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:36 am
by pneumaticcannons
The young yet dedicated pneumaticcannons procedes through a 2 hour google endeavor yet still possess merely a vague understanding of op-amps
So forgive me if I have missed something but can't op-amps only deliver as much voltage as their supply can provide? I'm looking to convert the 7.4 or 12v to 24 without a bulky 24v battery.
During my search, I found
this extremely helpful tutorial on the the MC34063. I think I found my solution.
Squidjuiceonastick-
1. Nice username, lol.
2. Not a derp Q at all.
3. I'm using an old igniter for an old oxy/acetylene torch that the I.D. teacher let me have. I couldn't even find an image - sorry. However I do know that the circuit is essentially exactly the same as the circuit in grill ignitors. Also, you only really need one camera's cap to provide fat sparks. Your problem may be that you tried to make you're own coil, leading to inneficiencies.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:00 am
by sagthegreat
you could convert 7.4 into 12, but you would loose current
so in other words gaining voltage reduces current, and vise versa
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:03 am
by dewey-1
pneumaticcannons wrote:
Concerning this project, I've run into a problem. The solenoid which operates the piston runs from a minimum of 24v.
Do you have a part number/brand of the solenoid?
The current required for actuation is needed for any design considerations.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:22 pm
by pneumaticcannons
Dewey- Here is the data sheet (courtesy of PS):
http://content.smcetech.com/pdf/VZ1000_1002.pdf
The current consumption is about 90 mA.
sagthegreat wrote:you could convert 7.4 into 12, but you would loose current
so in other words gaining voltage reduces current, and vise versa
Yeah thats true but not a problem when you have batteries capable of providing 20+ amps with a conversion ratio of 3.3/1. The solenoid only pulls 90mA so I should have 6 or so amps to spare.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:14 am
by pneumaticcannons
Electronic aspect of the build is finished... only 3 months after I said it would be
TBH, I can't believe I actually got both circuit boards working. The voltage step up took me 2 tries and their were countless other things that had to be sorted out.
Although they can be tricky to get working, I highly recomend that anyone looking to build any type of gun requiring some sort of electronic control system, buys a few of these ATtinys. They have as many inputs as you need , are cheap(most importantly), and are easy to program.
Anyway, here's a video showing everything functioning properly.
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:59 am
by POLAND_SPUD
Very impressive
I like

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:13 am
by pneumaticcannons
Thanks Poland
Now it's just a matter of finishing before the world ends
sorry I had too
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:48 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Very nice work

and thank goodness puberty is making you sound less like a little girl

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:09 am
by pneumaticcannons
less like
So I still sound like a little girl then?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:26 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Give it a couple of years
