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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:36 am
by Gippeto
wyz2285 wrote:
What "kind" of stainless? ie 304, 316, 440, etc. You need to be able to determine the yield strength of the material...can't find that if you don't know what it is.
I don´t know :? just normal stainless steel tubes used for water...
OD wound be 22mm
You use stainless for plumbing pipe? :? If that's the case, phone a plumber and ask them what type of stainless it is...look up the material properties of that type.

Will suggest you do a google search on Barlow's formula. :wink:

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:42 am
by Mr.Sandman
Gippeto wrote:
wyz2285 wrote:
What "kind" of stainless? ie 304, 316, 440, etc. You need to be able to determine the yield strength of the material...can't find that if you don't know what it is.
I don´t know :? just normal stainless steel tubes used for water...
OD wound be 22mm
You use stainless for plumbing pipe? :? If that's the case, phone a plumber and ask them what type of stainless it is...look up the material properties of that type.

Will suggest you do a google search on Barlow's formula. :wink:
My humble suggestion is to assume that it will be unsafe, and buy pressure rated pipe. You may be spending more money, but personally I'd rather spend a few dollars here, than a few hundred dollars in the emergency room if the pipe in question were to give way to the pressure.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:05 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:25 pm
by sl33k

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:17 am
by wyz2285
The type is INOX 1.4301 pipe I think, it´s wirtten on it, but it also says AISI 305 and EN 10312 :?

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:29 am
by dewey-1
1.4301 is 304 type.

INOX information:

http://www.euro-inox.org/pdf/map/What_i ... eel_EN.pdf

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:27 pm
by wyz2285
So is it safe?(kind lasy to read all the pdf :lol: )

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:46 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Yes, any fittings you make will fail long before the pipe itself does.

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:23 pm
by Lockednloaded
Would there be a noticeable difference in performance between a barrel sealer and a chamber sealer inside the same tee sealing against a 1/2" nipple?

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:24 pm
by ramses
Possibly. The one with the seat ratio closest to 1:1 would perform better. It would allow the pilot to be more empty when the valve opened, so it would experience more force for a greater opening time. For a reasonable tee size and port diameter, this is the barrel sealer

Also, the chamber sealer will likely have more dead volume.

http://www.spudfiles.com/spud_wiki/inde ... ston_Valve

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:50 pm
by Gun Freak
It would allow the pilot to be more empty when the valve opened, so it would experience more force for a greater opening time.
Not sure if you mean better time or bigger time. Because it would be a shorter opening time.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:39 pm
by Lockednloaded
I know that golf balls are about 1.68", but how consistent are they? Would they get jammed in a 1.68 ID aluminum tube?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:59 pm
by ramses
Gun Freak wrote:
It would allow the pilot to be more empty when the valve opened, so it would experience more force for a greater opening time.
Not sure if you mean better time or bigger time. Because it would be a shorter opening time.

Damn, that was pretty dumb wording.

I have a short question of my own:

Is there a reasonable way to exceed the performance of the following cannon scheme without going hybrid?

Barrel limited to 4-6" long

1. Fill chamber completely with liquid nitrogen (no gas space)
2. Seal chamber
3. Allow LN2 to "evaporate" into supercricical fluid
4. Dump with balanced hammer valve.

This would theoretically give me about 700 bar (expansion ratio of LN2 is ~1:700. Liquid Helium, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Neon are higher, but more expensive or reactive.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:30 pm
by Gun Freak
Out of curiosity, what is the bore of said setup?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:04 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
ramses wrote:4. Dump with balanced hammer valve.
I would favour exhaust valve + detent.

One would question the point though ;)