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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:24 pm
by Petitlu
it is the notch!
it is easily removed, it is not useful
the carbon tube is hollow

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:46 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Petitlu wrote:it is easily removed, it is not useful
I think it is :) and have an idea, can you measure the diameter?

In the meantime, here's a sabot for an 8mm ball bearing in the smoothbore barrel. What I did was drill and 8.5mm hole but leave a 12.5mm diameter lip at the front end. Because of the slits, the front part is flexible and in the barrel will bend and grip the bearing tightly. However when the sabot leaves the muzzle, it will spring out and release the projectile making for smooth separation. That's the theory at least ;)

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:53 pm
by Gun Freak
*Long elaborate theoretical explanation"
"That's the theory at least"

Sorry but that never works :D

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:57 pm
by Petitlu
Max diameter: 7.5mm
Wow! Very ingenious!
It should work

EDIT : one who tries nothing gets nothing! :D

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:02 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Gun Freak wrote:Sorry but that never works :D
I think my response is best summarised as a suggestion that you google "ipad fleshlight" :D
Max diameter: 7.5mm


Cheers, give me a few minutes...

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:05 pm
by Petitlu
Take your time! :lol:

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:06 pm
by wyz2285
Jack, you could insure a smooth separation by left the 12.5mm lip in both end and cut the sabot all the way down, instead of only half of it.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:33 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
wyz2285 wrote:Jack, you could insure a smooth separation by left the 12.5mm lip in both end and cut the sabot all the way down, instead of only half of it.
If you cut it in half completely then you would need a separate pusher plate, and a three part sabot is more time consuming than a one part one ;)

Speaking of three part sabots though, this might work for the arrow. My concern would be the shaft snapping in the barrel because the arrow is centred on the tips.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:53 pm
by Petitlu
cool the shoe!
acceleration will not break the arrow?

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:55 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Hopefully by keeping it centred it won't be allowed to bend to the point of breaking, but I can't guarantee that you won't get a shower of carbon fragments out of the muzzle :D

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:09 pm
by Petitlu
the arrow can break, it is cheap!
But to the impact vaporized ... the arrow! :D

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:21 pm
by Crna Legija
in the barrel it can only bend 6 or so mm im sure they bend more then that when shot from a bow and don't brake that often.

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:09 am
by Petitlu
yes for sure!
But the hybrid is more powerful than the bow so the impact there will be more damage, in addition to a target harder than the yellow straw!
:D

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:16 am
by al-xg
Breaking on impact is one thing, and is most likely if the target is hard, it's easy to break arrows that way even from a basic bow. Especially the cheap field tip arrows.

However, I'd be surprised to see an arrow brake from acceleration. If it somehow got jammed maybe, but even then it would have limited space to bend.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:38 am
by Crna Legija
al-xg wrote:Breaking on impact is one thing, and is most likely if the target is hard, it's easy to break arrows that way even from a basic bow. Especially the cheap field tip arrows.

However, I'd be surprised to see an arrow brake from acceleration. If it somehow got jammed maybe, but even then it would have limited space to bend.
Exactly what I was thinking.