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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:31 pm
by iknowmy3tables
oh I see you use the positive presure piston to push a seal against the rotary part before I thought it was just the spring and airfriction
hmm I bet positive presure piston valve could be used for an easy bolt and valve comb
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:40 pm
by Brian the brain
Incredible!
I wish you the best of luck and I think you are practically giving them away for that price.
Not only should they pay for the material and labour, they should also pay for uniqueness and design.
I'd say once they catch on, charge 2 grand for 'em.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:03 pm
by iknowmy3tables
Brian the brain wrote:Incredible!
I wish you the best of luck and I think you are practically giving them away for that price.
Not only should they pay for the material and labour, they should also pay for uniqueness and design.
I'd say once they catch on, charge 2 grand for 'em.
naw, I think thats fine relative to the high-end paint ball guns its what the fancy paint baller would probably pay
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:34 pm
by Lentamentalisk
That thing is incredible. If you have a website I highly sugest you link to it in your sig so that everyone can go admire your work / buy them. Very nicely designed and slick.
One question: How air efficient is it? ie: how many shots can you get off a single tank.
Related: can you adjust the power/pressure for different ranged shots?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:38 pm
by Solar
Without changing pressure there is a system option that allows instant velocity change. This for now will be installed on the police/military versions until I get some field testing done with the base models. This also keeps the cost down a little bit as well as getting them out the door sooner. For now you would need to increase or bleed the pressure. A sling attatched to the ring of the safety valve in front would work as a good method for this.
Can't spoil the secret with the shows, also because it could be on one or more of a few shows that the studio works on. As soon as I get the ok I will surely let everyone know.
The website
http://www.eclipselauncher.com is going to get re-done in a more profesional manner now that the launcher is going to be used in different roles besides only paintball.
How efficient? a tank can shoot more rounds than one can carry. I will post detailed specs within a week regarding the latest tests.
Should be in customers hands in the next couple weeks. Certainly this month. finallly! yay! I do plan on having cheaper AND more expensive versions to cater to all sorts of applications.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:42 pm
by Solar
iknowmy3tables, it does only use the spring and air friction(with a little trick) to make the seal. one could use the indexer pistons to REALLY make a seal, but testing has shown it unnecessary. the positive force piston valve is only used for firing, however some though has been given to combining it with the indexer mechanism. This design is the most dependable however, not relying on exhaust and fill speeds
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:30 pm
by Maniac
On the 50. cal test on the site it seems like it has a longer barrel than in the pics you have shown us. Has it been shortened, or is this just a accessory, or am i seeing things. This gun also reminds me of the
Milkor MGL 40mm grenade launcher

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:20 pm
by starman
Beautiful launcher there Solar! It looks like you've been working on this for some time now...I'm not sure I caught your previous announcements.
At 40mm, will a golfball fit in there? Sounds like you're focusing it toward the non-lethal ammo for law enforcement and the paintball market. Very nice work!
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:21 pm
by Solar
It normally does have the longer barrel attatched. There are two standard lengths right now and a few test lengths. Ballistic testing starts tomorrow so more info soon on that subject.
The Milkor is the target for training purposes. Reloading is different, but the Eclipse can match the m-32's range in the standard version. M-32 is a few pounds heavier, but also somewhat more expensive. owners of Milkor saw the prototype at FPED VI and we have had a few discussions about a demo with the production models. Wish me luck!
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:20 pm
by Maniac
I do hope the Eclipse is a sucess i can see it has amazing potential, is the Eclipse going to be marketed at Law enforcement mainly or the Military too.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:45 pm
by iknowmy3tables
really the eclipse has similar range as the Milkor, if you can streamline it, make it acurate, ensure reliabilty then the mililitary would probebly adopt it because of it's much more quiet a factor useful in special operations, but first it would have to be 99.8% reliable,
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:40 pm
by magnum9987
this screams ubb3r airsoft shotgun
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:05 pm
by Solar
Here is the latest anodizing and belt system. Finally got the trigger assembly mounted. 1911 Grips next with coverplate. Raised stock attach point. Looking to put an asa fitting on there for using a shorty carbon fiber wrapped tank.

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:19 pm
by Brian the brain
One mayor advantage to this for the military is the absence of muzzle flash.
I wish I had the chance to machine aluminium like that.
I'd never run out of plans I'm sure.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:12 pm
by magnum9987
how much does this weigh?