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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:50 pm
by colty-bear
yes i know that but most airsoft guns don't clear 300 yards and have it still be accurate ballistic balls are shot at VERY high velocitys aout of 12 guages in prison riots and the inmates are just stunned.

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:50 pm
by Mr.Sandman
inonickname wrote:Well, it depends on what ammo your using. Even in airsoft, the highest acceptable FPS is normally 500 for a single shot gun, and they have a minimum engagement distance.

I'm going to PM JRRDW.
Please do. I rather like enjoying my hobby while it is still legal in the U.S

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:53 pm
by colty-bear
cmon guys it is not really as bad as youd think would you rather get hit by one ballistics ball goin about 400 fps by the time it hits you or 150 going 900 fps out of a 12 guage shotgun?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:56 pm
by Mr.Sandman
What does a shotgun have to do with this? you dont have a means of garunteeing that fps. Its a bad idea period. Would you rather get shot by a golf ball going at 200 fps or a marble at 500?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:57 pm
by colty-bear
cops use shotguns with rubber ballistics balls and no i can guarentee that fps but i can guarantee it goes a hell of a lot faster that my pneumatic from 300 meters away

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:04 am
by inonickname
Do you think that they are intended to not do any harm at all?

The name was recently changed to less-lethal for a good reason. I've pmed the "authorities"..lol.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:07 am
by colty-bear
yea ok im just wondering i want to get some less lethal ammo fit for 1/4 copper barrel and i am going to get ballistics balls if i can find a snug fit size ball but how about this i will get some ballistics gel like they use on mythbusters and i will shoot it until i fund the velocity that is powerful enough to just right before sticking in. hows that sound?

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:07 am
by theBOOM
COLTY stop being a erm... SMART

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:08 am
by Mr.Sandman
Times like this when Jrrdw is not around when you want him to. How bout i get my 900+ psi marble rifle and shoot you from 300 feet away. I bet it will do more than just hurt

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:08 am
by colty-bear
read the last post it is a question

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:13 am
by inonickname
It's called less lethal because it's less likely to kill somebody then a standard bullet. The name was changed from non-lethal if that gives you an idea.

Pepper spray, rubber balls and tear gas are still responsible for permanent injury. (respiratory issues, eyesight loss etc)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:15 am
by Mr.Sandman
colty-bear wrote:yea ok im just wondering i want to get some less lethal ammo fit for 1/4 copper barrel and i am going to get ballistics balls if i can find a snug fit size ball but how about this i will get some ballistics gel like they use on mythbusters and i will shoot it until i fund the velocity that is powerful enough to just right before sticking in. hows that sound?

That just tests penetration you could still do some damage. My friend shot a kid in the finger from 50 feet and broke his pinky with a 350 fps sd5. The point is that its just plain stupid, someone is gonna get hurt i dont care how weak it is, one of the golden rules of fire arms. Treat EVERY gun as if it was a real firearm. You wouldnt shoot your friends with a M700 aics would you? Exactly.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:15 am
by colty-bear
fine all the masks we use (team bought the same) are rated to withstand 650 fps that will be my velocity now will somebody just tell me if there is a size of rubber ballistic balls that will fit snug in a 1/4 copper pipe so i can order already?

please

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:17 am
by inonickname
I can think of more than one lethal hit area than the face.

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:19 am
by colty-bear
ok im willing just to get over with this if i agree to only do 550 fps will somebody tell me what f###### size of rubber ballistics balls fit perfectly in a 1/4 copper pipe

sorry if im getting frusterated I JUST LOVE POWER! lol :lol: