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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:28 am
by jmadden91
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:32 am
by Hubb
If this can get approved by the Administration here, we can go ahead and start organizing this.
As far as the contest to see who would become "thread starter" I'm thinking something simple, such as an idea, should be used instead of a major contest.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
A launcher is a tool, one lays out the specifications according to what one intends to do with it.
If I want to blow massive holes through domestic appliances, I won't build an airsoft BBMG.
Personally, the goal is always to build something that is as:
compact
powerful
silent
cheap
easy
as can be. The ultimate weapon would be a derringer with the power of a 50 cal as quiet as an airsoft pistol.
Unfortunately, many of the specifications are antagonistic and there has to be a compromise. If you want very long range, you're going to have to forget about compactness, low cos and usually low noise levels.
The point here is that everyone lives in different locations with different resources, and designs are adapted accordingly. Reaching consensus would be a bit of a bother.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:45 am
by rcman50166
Well instead of everyone saying exactly what they want the cannon to be, how bout an admin gives us a real world scenario where a cannon can be used to solve a problem.
For example: You need to get to the top of a 100 story building. You can't go inside and you need to do it in thirty minutes. Naturally being a spudfiles member you have a cannon in hand. What would it need to look like to accomplish the mission?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:09 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
rcman50166 wrote:What would it need to look like to accomplish the mission?
Sorted.
Next!

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:10 am
by POLAND_SPUD
If this is a community project, shouldn't we take advantage of the fact that some members have the skills and equipment to actually machine parts
I don't think that building one gun/design per project will result in creativity... we really need several designs created, developed and built by different competing members or teams of members... you know 'adversity springs creativity' or something like that
what is more, I am afraid that senior members will be the most influential when it comes to ideas... you know if JSR says that something won't work people take it for granted
Reaching consensus would be a bit of a bother.
that's why I think it shouldn't really be a community project where all members participate to design one gun.... we need teams or individual members competing with their own designs... members living in the same country, state or continent or having the same ideas could form one team together
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:37 am
by rcman50166
Whoo USA, USA, USA!!! lol bet you can't guess what team I'm on..
Anyway it seems to be a good idea to break down teams into regions, Less arguing. Perhaps there can be a sticky for each region.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:59 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
POLAND_SPUD wrote:what is more, I am afraid that senior members will be the most influential when it comes to ideas... you know if JSR says that something won't work people take it for granted

I always say it
probably won't work, I'm a spudding agnostic

everyone is welcome to prove me wrong, and I'm happy when they do

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:11 am
by john bunsenburner
Personally I think an acctual community project would be better. We all brain storm and then vote on designs, or have features shared, then one person builds it. That is cheaper and in the end most probably less complex than if we split up into teams and what not. Remember this is not a contest, it is to bring out new ideas and to make new inventions for the spudding world. And seeing as how one member can do som, imagin what the entire forum could?
How about we get it started, just give it a shot and see what happens. Then at the end we either re evaluate and try again differently or we keep going the way we did.
So, who else says we get going?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:22 am
by starman
OK I'm going to offer up a contrarian POV here.
Haven't we already been acting as a "community" of some sort here? The technologies for this hobby are pretty much laid out in concrete at this point. Short of a fully engineered from scratch, formed, milled, firearm like cannon (which I would be all for BTW), I'm not sure a "community" effort is going to take stock plumbing and air power parts much further than has already been attained and well documented here in these hallowed pages.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:41 am
by dewey-1
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:rcman50166 wrote:What would it need to look like to accomplish the mission?
Sorted.
Next!

JSR;
That is just a mini version of D_Halls Vera without flames!1

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:47 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:59 am
by dewey-1
I think that would be a great funeral for you when the time comes!
I would imagine an epoxy coffin in an efficient ballistic shape!
Don't forget to have someone take damage pictures and video for the ammo discussion thread.
Better rewrite your will and last testament!

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:04 am
by Hubb
starman wrote:OK I'm going to offer up a contrarian POV here.
Haven't we already been acting as a "community" of some sort here? The technologies for this hobby are pretty much laid out in concrete at this point. Short of a fully engineered from scratch, formed, milled, firearm like cannon (which I would be all for BTW), I'm not sure a "community" effort is going to take stock plumbing and air power parts much further than has already been attained and well documented here in these hallowed pages.
You da man and all, but I will have to somewhat disagree with this. The primary purpose of a community project is to attempt and go beyond that which is laid out in concrete. To think outside the box. Everyone (especially here) has the potential to think this way, but sometimes persons need a little bit of an edge to get there. By others inputting ideas, it may trigger some of this type of thinking.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:16 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
dewey-1 wrote:I think that would be a great funeral for you when the time comes!
I would imagine an epoxy coffin in an efficient ballistic shape!
Don't forget to have someone take damage pictures and video for the ammo discussion thread.
Yep, or simply encase me in a
GBU-28 