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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:33 pm
by clemsonguy1125
I disagree a ball valve has great flow if you can cet the thing open quick enough, there great for higher pressure and have great power with a detent to hold it back till say, 500 PSI which a sprinkler valve cant handle
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:34 pm
by Gun Freak
*sigh* I italisized the "almost" part for a reason
and you stole that from JSR
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:37 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Yes, bust it not thievery, you say piston valves are the best all the time, you "stole" that from a ton of people, plus I designed a gun to test that concept but I havent built the shock pump yet
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:40 pm
by Gun Freak
Nope, never said piston valves are the best. Burst disks are, and you can quote me on that. Or perhaps its the valveless launcher... IDK.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:47 pm
by clemsonguy1125
No you told a guy the best valve to build it a Piston valve, but technically a valveless launcher doesnt have a valve
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:48 pm
by Gun Freak
Find the post man, find the post.
clemsonguy1125 wrote:technically a valveless launcher doesnt have a valve
Hence the name

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:50 pm
by clemsonguy1125
but we were discussing valves, and Ill find the post eventually I dont feel like going through 1305 post, it would take a while
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:06 pm
by Gun Freak
In a way, the detent in the valveless launcher acts as the valve. It is what holds back the air pressure. But then again, the projectile could even be considered the valve too, because it does the same.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:08 pm
by clemsonguy1125
that depends JSRs prototype use the pellets deforming shirt to hold the air and a screw as the trigger to hold the pellet
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:09 pm
by Gun Freak
Umm.... deforming shirt?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:15 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Gun Freak wrote:Umm.... deforming shirt?
my bad typo, I meant skirt
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:21 pm
by velocity3x
"Gun Freak".....tell you a ball valve is the least powerful pneumatic valve to use. They have poor opening times unless you build a trigger system and spring load it which I think is a pain.
You state that as fact but, my guess is that you have little or no personal experience to justify such an opinion. You probably read it somewhere and rely on it as fact.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:25 pm
by Gun Freak
You screwed up that quote
Most ball valve cannons aren't spring loaded, therefor have terrible opening times, and although they have good flow, they can easily be outdone by the other valves I suggested. I have nothing against ball valves. In combo with an air cylinder or trigger system, they can rival a piston valve in performace.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:45 am
by Gippeto
@ gunfreak and clemson...you guys ever heard of CHAT or PM?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:44 pm
by maverik94
I disagree a ball valve has great flow if you can cet the thing open quick enough, there great for higher pressure and have great power with a detent to hold it back till say, 500 PSI which a sprinkler valve cant handle
But a qev and a piston valve would be able to handle that, and they would open much faster.