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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:55 pm
by MrCrowley
Hmm... so how far can one take the Attractive nuisance doctrine do you think? For instance, if someone cuts their wrist smashing a car window that they're breaking in to and bleeds out, can they sue? I see it includes trampolines as an example. If a drunk teenage wandered on their property and bounced on their unfenced trampoline, fell and broke his neck...lawsuit?

I'm glad we don't have things like this in NZ, not that I've heard about anyway. People need to take responsibility for their actions. Obviously, the original intention of the law, about children and trespassing, is fair enough to a degree. I'm sure you'd be held liable here if a child drowned in your unfenced swimming pool.

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:59 pm
by evilvet
I have:

PIR
Plenty of SLA batteries
Solenoids
Tanks
Permanent dye markers
Motivation
Time

You are all giving me a lot to think about, BTW call out before you come down the driveway............

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:09 pm
by Technician1002
MrCrowley wrote: If a drunk teenage wandered on their property and bounced on their unfenced trampoline, fell and broke his neck...lawsuit?

I'm glad we don't have things like this in NZ, not that I've heard about anyway. People need to take responsibility for their actions. Obviously, the original intention of the law, about children and trespassing, is fair enough to a degree. I'm sure you'd be held liable here if a child drowned in your unfenced swimming pool.
Here the fence must be huge at a pool. Liability laws is why diving boards are a thing of the past here. Back yard in ground pools are fading here. I know of several that have been filled in.

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:25 pm
by velocity3x
Technician1002 wrote:Here the fence must be huge at a pool.
Same here in Az...5' high. Until recently, I had a 1 acre, 10' deep Bass Pond (unfenced) in my front lawn. It is legal here because there are no regulations regarding Bass Ponds. However, my pool, which is miniscule by comparison must be fenced because pools are considered to be an "attractive nuisance". Go figure??? Not a lot of reason in some codes.

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:17 pm
by Lockednloaded
I hate thieves, but on an unrelated note, I found a sweet black Shogun 7005 upgraded to Deore XT with a full Topeak kit that some prick was throwing away in inner east Melbourne. An $850 bike for free! What a "steal"!

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:42 pm
by Zeus
LnL, Florida right? Unless you came down here?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:56 pm
by Gippeto
MrCrowley wrote:Hmm... so how far can one take the Attractive nuisance doctrine do you think? For instance, if someone cuts their wrist smashing a car window that they're breaking in to and bleeds out, can they sue?
If the punk bleeds out...he's dead. The dead don't sue. :wink:

The idiots relatives however... :roll:

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:00 pm
by MrCrowley
Typo :D

My brain must have been thinking about the family while my hands were typing with the bleeding idiot in mind :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:17 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
POLAND_SPUD wrote:well even if it was designed only to produce a loud BANG it would be pretty cool and effective
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-gun
The states have "Attractive Nuisance" laws. It is why substations are locked and you can be sued when a neighbor kid jumps the short fence and drowns in your backyard pool.
That doesn't sound right, fighting Darwinism. Still, babies are stupid.
You are all giving me a lot to think about
I really like this one by potatoflinger :) make sure you don't get caught in your own traps.

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:39 am
by Hotwired
jakethebeast wrote:that sucks, im happy that i live deep in the forrest :) no thewes in here :wink:
Machinery and diesel is a major theft issue in the country.

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:51 pm
by HunterT
Hotwired wrote:
jakethebeast wrote:that sucks, im happy that i live deep in the forrest :) no thewes in here :wink:
Machinery and diesel is a major theft issue in the country.
Most people in the country have a shotgun or two... :D

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/thompson/010918.html

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:54 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
HunterT wrote:Most people in the country have a shotgun or two... :D
... and get prosecuted when they use them :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer%29

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:18 pm
by HunterT
The laws vary from country to country. I can't say I've really read up on them either. However it doesn't really surprise me, for England is known for strict gun laws.

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:31 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
EDIT
I already found it myself... his neighbour called the police

that's why silencer are sooo cool
Image
:D :D :D

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:49 pm
by velocity3x
"Castle Doctrine" is becoming the law in more state these days. I'm sure it varies from state to state, but Arizona allows the use of lethal force to defend life OR property. That applies not just on your own property, but anywhere within the state.

No permit required here for concealed carry.