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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:31 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
al-xg wrote:Left-over Eldest Son Project ammuntion? I think I saw that video used in an article on that subject, or the more recent uses of similar tactics, I didn't check the sources at the time though so who knows...
I doubt Vietnam era ammunition made it to the Middle East, though lets be honest, stranger things have happened!

Doesn't mean the Israelis or Americans haven't been up to the same tricks recently though, there were reports a month or so ago for example that the Syrian government has used the ploy against their antagonists in the current civil war raging there.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:12 pm
by jrrdw
Wait until we send the .50's over.....errrrr delegates to solve the issue peacefully. :wink:



FREE THE PEOPLE! All people should be free to live as they wish!

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:54 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
Wait until we send the .50's over.....errrrr delegates to solve the issue peacefully.
not really going to happen considering that both russia and china have supported syrian government, promised to help the in case of an attack and sent some fairly advanced military equipment there - (s-300 SAM systems, pantsir s1, iskander missile launchers etc.)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:04 pm
by archie370
dont forget the nukes that russia has ... ?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:08 pm
by jrrdw
PS wrote:not really going to happen considering that both russia and china have supported syrian government, promised to help the in case of an attack and sent some fairly advanced military equipment there - (s-300 SAM systems, pantsir s1, iskander missile launchers etc.)
That may be true.....but......we have Ted Nugent!

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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:54 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
jrrdw wrote:FREE THE PEOPLE! All people should be free to live as they wish!
... even if what they wish is to destroy you?

The thing with giving people democracy is that they might end up voting for someone you don't like, for example when Palestinians were given the vote they elected Hamas, who are hell bent on wiping Israel off the map (or more recently, you let women vote, you get Obama...)

Sometimes I think that some sort of benevolent dictatorship is what societies need. After all, the average person is pretty thick, and when you think about it, half the population is as stupid or worse.
Winston Churchill wrote:“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:45 am
by jrrdw
... even if what they wish is to destroy you?
Well, after thinking about it...that's been going on since the dawn of mankind, there is no avoiding it.

Questions: How would you feel about living under a dictatorship and not being able to do as you wish?

Do you think people living under the Hamas flag are free to do as they wish?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:21 am
by Labtecpower
someone at work is going to put this thing to 60 mWc

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Not going to stand anywhere near this when he pressurises it, there will be about 600000 Newtons on it, held back by 6 clamps :D

Not to mention he should be using a hydrotest, this thing is half full of air :roll:

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:56 am
by inonickname
Any ideas for what to do with this?

Basically the story goes is that we have a friend who lives in his landrover (he's 70, and it's about as old as him), he travels around and collects stuff and basically enjoys himself. Every now and then he stops in for a beer, dinner and to stay the night and brings stuff he's collected. He often gives us some stuff he's found/bought/bartered for/whatever as he needs more room to collect more junk :lol:

Anyway, he occasionally turns up with some pretty interesting stuff. Tonight he stopped in with a few bits and pieces including this. It's a Mitutoyo caliper head, brand new (was still coated in the plastic from the factory in Japan many years ago). It's graduated in .001" but clearly has the capability for more accuracy (you can estimate .0001" or 0.0002" on it quite accurately).

Clearly made to mount to tooling or a machine- he seemed to think for measuring turbine blades or something.

Anyway, what do I do with it? At the moment I've just got it sitting on my desk to play with

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:22 am
by POLAND_SPUD
[youtube][/youtube]awesome

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:38 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
jrrdw wrote:Questions: How would you feel about living under a dictatorship and not being able to do as you wish?
Presumably an imprisoned serial killer who wishes to murder but cannot because he is in solitary confinement would not be happy at all, but for the good of society in general I'm sure you would agree that it is morally right that his wishes should not be considered.

Living together as a society implies compromise, not always being able to do what you want but knowing that others around you are "paying the same price", so fair is fair. The question is, how far do you take it?
Do you think people living under the Hamas flag are free to do as they wish?
Well, they voted for them. If they are unhappy, they are free to vote for someone else.
inonickname wrote:Basically the story goes is that we have a friend who lives in his landrover (he's 70, and it's about as old as him), he travels around and collects stuff and basically enjoys himself. Every now and then he stops in for a beer, dinner and to stay the night and brings stuff he's collected. He often gives us some stuff he's found/bought/bartered for/whatever as he needs more room to collect more junk :lol:
Sounds like a glimpse into my future :D
POLAND_SPUD wrote:awesome
Classic, always makes me wonder why most documentaries condescendingly speak to you as if everyone wants to save every damn endangered species.

I would think that most people genuinely have this opinion:

[youtube][/youtube]

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:05 pm
by velocity3x
archie370 wrote:dont forget the nukes that russia has ... ?
I'm worried more by the average American "mentality" than by Russian Nukes.

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:19 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
Classic, always makes me wonder why most documentaries condescendingly speak to you as if everyone wants to save every damn endangered species.
I like how they present bleach to be the ultimate solution to every problem - sort of what I say about 3 way valves & aircylinders


ohh and check their channel - lots of funniest parodies on the internet
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOnion

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:30 pm
by jrrdw
velocity3x wrote:I'm worried more by the average American "mentality" than by Russian Nukes.
:lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:00 am
by MrCrowley
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Winston Churchill wrote:“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”
There's this one too:
Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried
I agree. Democracy sucks but it is better than anything else. Dictatorship is great for getting things done but the chance that the wrong person becomes the Dictator is too high to make it an option worth considering.
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote: The thing with giving people democracy is that they might end up voting for someone you don't like, for example when Palestinians were given the vote they elected Hamas, who are hell bent on wiping Israel off the map (or more recently, you let women vote, you get Obama...)
:lol:
Though I guess women voting for Obama weren't given much choice thanks to the Romney campaign and its supporters. If I were a woman, I'd vote for Obama without hesitation solely because of his stance on women issues. Unrelated: This is so true, voting for presidents is like picking the shiniest of two turds.

For me, science is the main issue. I couldn't vote for a party where so many of its representatives are more likely to have faith in 'miracles' than something that actually has an entire field of scientific research backing it. :D
They can believe what they want as long as they can make a distinction between the two when it comes to deciding new laws or what goes in to classroom text books.