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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:45 pm
by django
From what I can see that front part holding the spring in place is a plastic ring which explains why mine is gone( broken at some point).
I need that ring.
The Spring.
All the Seals.
But still cant see how that section with the spring/ring/slide release seperates from the frame!!?? as the Slide release buttons will still hold it all in the frame even when that screw under the barrel is removed.
unless I can remove it all I cant install that Plastic Spring Bushing
EDIT: Shooting it today by dropping in a bb from the muzzle and this thing is laughably weak when it fires?!,my old springer from the 90's has much more powa?.
when firing with the mag loaded,its spitting out 2-3 at a time and then other times more often than not... shooting out none. It looks like when its kicking back the slide its not going back far enough to load the next round
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:06 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
In order to fit the spring, pull the barrel out and lift out the breech piece as per the blue arrows, you can then fit the spring and place the split ring. The seals look like they're in pretty good shape so it should be fine, power should improve and therefore accuracy, though the loose barrel fitting doesn't help with the latter.
I've labelled all the parts I'll be sending, if you need any other part that cannot be identified as part of a pistol then let me know.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:42 am
by django
Great!, thanks for the info= just worried customs will confiscate the parts when you send them down here and if that happens im screwed as I cant locate spare parts for this anywhere else.
Just thinking that Magazine seal might give away what is is all for?,customs here are very,very smart at knowing what is Airgun/gun parts. Though I will need use another of those seal's at some point down the track I suspect!?.
Im surprised that split ring even holds inplace because the steel part it slides onto only has an extremely small lip on it,or mine does anyway. I tried to pull the barrel out earlier today but it didnt want to come out? so I didnt force it out.
Im thinking this Pistol must be a lot older than I thought, how long have you had yours?= seeing that the internals differ so much from all other GBB Airsoft ive seen I think its a really early design for GBB Airsoft guns,either that or just cheaper to make them this way??..........
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:18 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
django wrote:Great!, thanks for the info= just worried customs will confiscate the parts when you send them down here and if that happens im screwed as I cant locate spare parts for this anywhere else.
With some careful design and lathework, you can remake the bolt parts in order to accommodate normal o-rings instead of proprietary conical seals, same goes for the breech.
Just thinking that Magazine seal might give away what is is all for?,customs here are very,very smart at knowing what is Airgun/gun parts. Though I will need use another of those seal's at some point down the track I suspect!?.
If you think it will be a problem I will omit it, besides as it is only under compressive stress if is very unlikely to wear out during the pistol's lifetime, unlike the bolt seals which see a lot of movement.
Im surprised that split ring even holds inplace because the steel part it slides onto only has an extremely small lip on it,or mine does anyway. I tried to pull the barrel out earlier today but it didnt want to come out? so I didnt force it out.
It's only held by the friction of the breech seal, you should be able to pull the barrel out without breaking anything.
Im thinking this Pistol must be a lot older than I thought, how long have you had yours?= seeing that the internals differ so much from all other GBB Airsoft ive seen I think its a really early design for GBB Airsoft guns,either that or just cheaper to make them this way?
I got mine second hand about 8 years ago, no idea for how long the previous owner had it.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:55 am
by django
Yeh leave the Mag Seal out for now,the rest shouldget here fine 8)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:17 am
by Crna Legija
Since you cant really get replacements, might be a good idea to make blue prints of the parts. So when they brake you can have someone machine a new part.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:58 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Also, since this thread is a de facto confession to having purchased an illegal item, you might want to ask the mods to delete this thread

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:31 am
by warhead052
Crna Legija wrote:warhead052 wrote:You posted pics? Haha, sorry, I missed those. I will check them out.
Edit, heres my reaction... WTF! Get rid of that gun, is all I can say. Pipe cleaner bushings? You got scammed my friend. If you want an airsoft pistol, let me know, I have one that goes close to 250 fps. I can sell it cheap, I don't like it, and its worthless to me. I would have to check with my parents first but yeah.
lol when you get it in Australia pm me..
I have a couple siblings over there, so I can get it in one way or another.
To the best of my knowledge warhead is in Aus as well, I'd be more inclined to trust an SF member than the general populace.
I am in the US. If I was in Aus, I would probably be building a bit more often, and my dad would be taking me to the outback to shoot off cannons.
Back of topic, django, just follow what jack is sending you, and it may work. If it doesn't, check online for blueprints of the gun.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:50 am
by Crna Legija
I have a couple siblings over there, so I can get it in one way or another.
the customs guys are really tight about them. in 06 i went to Croatia for a holiday and when we come back i put a springer bb gun in my suitcase and like 2k BBs, thay took it all and gave us a $150 fine, but the fine should have been 500 bux but because we pretend to be more FOB then we are, they let us off lite.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:08 am
by warhead052
My brother works for the government, so he should be able to get it through with gov clearance. I will find out from him, and if he cant, oh well. I would just simply find out how this guy got the GBB into the country, and then try doing it my self.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:30 am
by Crna Legija
He must have got it passed before 9/11 they didn't really care back then.
there no way unless your importing drugs and stash it in there.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:40 am
by warhead052
What about the usual boat ride in?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:58 am
by Crna Legija
warhead052 wrote:What about the usual boat ride in?
They check boat luggage as well, and are you willing to take 20ish days on a boat to get a bb gun in aust?
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:03 am
by django
Someone on the MP40 Model Guns Site
http://mp40modelguns.forumotion.net/ posted this for me, similar internally to my inferior Haw San but not exactly the same
http://www.gunpower.com/?mid=gunpower&p ... _srl=15939
Heres more on the MGC one
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/mgc_g18.htm look at the pathetic FPS!!!, looks like new seals wont power up my peice of shit Haw San much at all

. Was shooting it today again and power is VERY low,my old springer shoots much harder,wonder if theres a way to get more power out of it????
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:50 am
by inonickname
warhead052 wrote:My brother works for the government, so he should be able to get it through with gov clearance. I will find out from him, and if he cant, oh well. I would just simply find out how this guy got the GBB into the country, and then try doing it my self.
He wont get it through. It's illegal, and there's no practical way to get a permit or licence to own it. He WILL lose his job, and probably face prosecution. Don't be a smartass with customs.