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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:26 am
by Petitlu
yeah!
I just received the tungsten rods!
Each weighing 20g
:D

EDIT : impossible to grind! :?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:46 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
hahaha!
impossible to grind!
... so impossible to deform on impact ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:57 am
by Petitlu
Yes !
but I can not make a point...

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:04 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
So what... it's a hole punch :D

... when can we expect the first test?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:11 am
by Petitlu
Tomorrow morning or afternoon!
With other shots as the ball 8mm
:D

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:30 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Excellent :)

it would be cool to see if the arrow sabot works too if you have time

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:47 am
by Petitlu
yes no problem!
How far I have to set the target?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:07 am
by DYI
Are you using tungsten rods, or tungsten carbide? The former should grind on a normal wheel, and the latter, of course, requires a diamond wheel if you're trying to take off large amounts of material as would be required to make a point.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:13 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Petitlu wrote:How far I have to set the target?
A couple of metres should be enough for the sabots to separate cleanly.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 am
by Petitlu
tungsten carbide....
what is the difference?

2m ok ! :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:47 am
by DYI
Tungsten is a dense, high melting metal used for radiation shielding, very high temperature applications (mainly electrodes), and as an alloying element. Tungsten carbide is a ceramic (although what you actually buy is called a "cermet", a portmanteau of "ceramic" and "metal", due to it being tungsten carbide powder bonded together with a metallic filler) used mostly for tooling, and for wear resistance in general due to its high hardness.

Both have seen use as projectile materials due to their high densities, although tungsten is more dense than either of its carbides.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:59 am
by Petitlu
ok thank you
I will use them as they are, I do not have the equipment for cutting ...
even the flat head, enter to the steel!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:05 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Petitlu wrote:even the flat head, enter to the steel!
The SP-4 silent cartridgefires a simple flat headed steel cylinder:

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At ten grams and firing at a low (by high mix hybrid standards) 200 metres per second, it claims complete penetration of one inch of pine board or, or a standard army steel helmet.

You're going to be firing a smaller diameter, harder and much denser projectile, probably at much higher velocity. I say prospects are good :)

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:25 pm
by al-xg
Oh come on, add a little bit of distance, there's not point in making fins other wise :)
of course you wouldn't want to miss the target, but unless it's really small that shouldn't be too much of a problem with a fixed canon.

At ten grams and firing at a low (by high mix hybrid standards) 200 metres per second, it claims complete penetration of one inch of pine board or
Seems about right in my experience, I've definitely made it though 1" of pine with my pneumatics and full bore projectiles.
The first shot I tried with a 4mm tungsten rod in my spring loaded ball valve air rifle at fairly low pressure made it though a 3.5" pine block.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:22 pm
by Petitlu
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