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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:43 am
by deathbyDWV
Good idea of selling a pre-made piston valve to anyone who can't make their own. Personally i don't like buying pre-made stuff even if i can't get something to work the first time. Just getting to build it is half the fun for me.
PS: check out my name and make sure your parts aren't DWV!!!

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:03 pm
by Willdebeers
Because of the parts avalible and the design it has to have 1.5" porting. But what about MrCrowley's piston valve? That was 50mm- 40mm.

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:00 am
by Willdebeers
MKII is here!

The valve turned out better than expected, and I should have damage shots as soon as I can get a good chamber and barrel.

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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:51 am
by thedeathofall
wow, that looks pretty good. I can see you spent time actually finding the right parts.

Get some test shots and make a few more prototypes, and then we'll see how good it really is.

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:54 am
by Willdebeers
yeah, the first one was just to see if the concept works. I'm having a bit of a problem though, The piston only can slide back 1/4". the porting is 1.5", so is this enough? Is it to restricting?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:06 am
by thedeathofall
Well for a piston that large I might recommend a little bit more. 0.5-0.75 inches would be more than enough. 0.25 inch will be fine though.

If you do find it overly restricting, then you know what to do for the next prototype :roll:

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:53 am
by Technician1002
Jogumpie wrote:yeah, the first one was just to see if the concept works. I'm having a bit of a problem though, The piston only can slide back 1/4". the porting is 1.5", so is this enough? Is it to restricting?
It is restricting. The minimum is about 1/4 the diameter of the port. In the 1.5 port a .375 is minimum. Can you adjust the length of the piston?

To prevent a double restriction of the piston opening and valve seat, I aim for the opening to be about 1/2 the seat diameter so the seat is the only real restriction.

Those measurement only apply to valves where the air is able to enter from all sides. Ones built inside a T where 3/4 of the sides of the piston are not a port, the distance needs to be larger so the area is not restricted to the valve seat. It is why I like coaxial designs. The less distance a piston has to move out of the way, the faster it is all the way open.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:23 am
by Willdebeers
Well I modified the piston and it now opens 3/4".

By the way, I have never dealed with 16bar pipe before, its really thick. :shock:

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:56 am
by Biopyro
Wow, sounds really good. Very nice and neat too! How are you arranging the pilot setup?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:17 am
by Willdebeers
Its basically the same as Sean's setup. (QEV, Blowgun, quick disconnect etc...)

I still havent decided the final price though.


EDIT: Btw biopyro, is your QDV done yet? :D

oh yeah, here are some moar pics:

Piston open:
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Piston closed:
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Parts needed to build it:
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Enjoy! :D

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:59 pm
by Biopyro
Very nice and neat!

Not quite. I'm finding the piston verrry tight still. Just need to make the vent ports reeeally smooth. What size were the o-rings on it btw? I cut one of them a little, and I think it needs replacing. I've bought the shock pump for it, should be here by next week.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:14 pm
by Willdebeers
13mm. They were quite strechy though. Try smaller ones. It should work better.

EDIT: MKII went to a photoshoot today! Here are some pics. These will be used in the promotional.

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Enjoy!

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:51 pm
by Willdebeers
Oops! Ignore this.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:00 pm
by Biopyro
Damage pics will be a crucial seller! Where are they? Looks really nice though, I can't wait to see how it performs!

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:40 am
by Willdebeers
Finally got some damage pics! I'll upload them in a sec. Just need to find that cord...

By the way, this thing is way more powerful than I thought it would be, decimating 3/4" particle board.