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GGDT problems

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:16 pm
by veginator
Can someone help me I'm trying to see if my design will work or not but GGDT isn't working.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:26 pm
by MrCrowley
Thanks for searching first, I really appreciate it, instead of making another topic exactly like one that was posted only one day ago.
<A HREF="http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtop ... 421">Topic you would've found by searching</a>

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:40 pm
by veginator
thats not the problem the program is working fine it's just once I type in all the stats it looks to be coming out wrong.so get off my back.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:43 pm
by windshrike
Maybe you overlooked something. Once GGDT gave me a negative velocity reading, don't remember why but it was an input data problem.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:46 pm
by veginator
could someone input it for me to make sure my computer isn't screwy.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:08 pm
by MrCrowley
veginator wrote:thats not the problem the program is working fine it's just once I type in all the stats it looks to be coming out wrong.so get off my back.
Thanks for telling me all that in your first post. Why didn't you give me specifics? There are loads of things that could be wrong.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:36 pm
by veginator
MrCrowley wrote:
veginator wrote:thats not the problem the program is working fine it's just once I type in all the stats it looks to be coming out wrong.so get off my back.
Thanks for telling me all that in your first post. Why didn't you give me specifics? There are loads of things that could be wrong.
I hope you know that sarcasism isn't the easiest thing to read. Back to the topic. I want to build a barrel sealing pneumatic with a 48 inch chamber but before I did I wanted to see how well it would preform and how long of a barrel to use. But I don't think I am puting in the right input because the projectile never leaves the barrel. btw i'm sorry I didn't get to the point in the very beginning.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:41 pm
by clide
Without more info it is really hard to help you, but my guess would be that you are putting in the chamber dimensions wrong. Inner diameter should be set to 0 and outer diameter should be the ID of your chamber pipe.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:28 pm
by veginator
Well I typed that in and it gave me some un expected results. I wound up with a gun that could have a 700 inch barrel. I think it's either the inaccuracy of ggdt or it is your advice or I am bust a moron who accidentally typed in a gun with a 4800 hundred inch chamber. So which one do you think it is.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:13 pm
by clide
veginator wrote:Well I typed that in and it gave me some un expected results. I wound up with a gun that could have a 700 inch barrel. I think it's either the inaccuracy of ggdt or it is your advice or I am bust a moron who accidentally typed in a gun with a 4800 hundred inch chamber. So which one do you think it is.
A reasonably large pneumatic can have barrels that long before performance starts decreasing.

Are you using the gun optimizer to see how long your barrel should be? That optimizes so you will have 0 acceleration as the projectile leaves the barrel, which is LONG after the point of diminishing returns for most launchers, and definitely way longer than what is usually practical.

If you are using the optimizer, then you are better off manually changing the barrel lengths until you are happy with the trade off between power and size.

If you really don't think it is giving you the right results then upload your GGDT file and we can look over it (you may have to put it in a zip to use the spudfiles uploader)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:54 pm
by Hubb
Redid your input. Put inner diam to 0 (what clide suggested :) ) and changed your valve type to barrel seal. It came to 420fps.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:57 pm
by Hubb
Um, dude, what keeps happening with your posts?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:57 pm
by veginator
Wow, when I uploaded the file my computer wouldn't let me view so thanks :D I think now all my problems are solved until something else comes up. About my posts disapering. I couldn't view the ggdt so I assumed no else could either so I deleted it. And the post after that you pretty much answered what I saying while I was typing but if you want me to put up the ggdt just ask.