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150,000psi??
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:45 pm
by pat123
I found this website looking for valves for potato guns but I was wondering how they get the pressure of whatever they are using it on up to that pressure? It would be awesome to make a 150,000psi cannon

I have no idea what kind of pipe you would use or how to get it that high.
http://www.highpressure.com/valves_fitt ... §ion=4
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:47 pm
by Hotwired
Looks like a needle valve for hydraulic pressure.
No gas would be a gas at 150,000psi (without some ridiculous conditions) so it's a no-go.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:56 pm
by pizlo
Also you would be limited by the expansion rate of air.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:01 pm
by mark.f
Such equipment would definitely be hydraulic. I think I remember calculating that blackpowder burns around 150 KPSI, (wasn't that exact number).
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:43 pm
by DYI
At room temperature, hydrogen is the only thing that would still be gaseous at that pressure. Even helium would be liquified. I don't know of any hydraulic or pneumatic systems that operate anywhere near that kind of pressure. Even light gas guns and tank cannons don't usually operate over 100kpsi.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:47 pm
by cwazy1
well then with that said can we try at 99kpsi??

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:58 pm
by DYI
Well, you try and build a homemade LGG, and go right ahead. I'm sure we'll hear about it on the news...
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:02 pm
by bigbob12345
I dont think there is any way of getting to that pressure but if you did and fired it would deafen everybody within a mile of the point you fired it.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:29 pm
by windshrike
Not to mention that at 150 kpsi you'd have several kilos of gas being vented, so the recoil would be, to say the least, devastating. Bye-bye rotator cuff.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:05 pm
by DYI
Well, those numbers depend on the size of chamber you used, and whether you were idiotic enough to fire it handheld. With a small enough chamber, using 150kpsi hydrogen, your performance:size ratio would be higher than any firearm.
Unfortunately, this doesn't change the problem that the valve system on a handheld 150kpsi hydrogen pneumatic would cost more than most people earn in a year.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:45 pm
by noob of noobs
So just use it on a high powered pneumatic! You don't have to use it at 150kpsi, do you? If not, you could try to make a gun on unregulated nitrogen or something. I mean, it's a pretty much fail safe valve, so what's the problem?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:47 pm
by Hotwired
The flow is crap thats what

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:51 pm
by carter
i no gun powder burns at roughly 50000psi. would it be used for steam?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:55 pm
by noob of noobs
Hotwired wrote:The flow is crap thats what

Oh... Then screw it...
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:30 pm
by CpTn_lAw
what do you mean black powder burns at 50,000 psi? like in "in a closed chamber it produces 50,000 psi max?" or that it self ignites at 50,000psi?