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State of the full auto spudgun?
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:08 am
by dongfang
Hi,
Occasionally there is mention of a full auto spud gun. Mostly, just as a dream of the future, sometimes also as an unfinished or failed project.
I have tried a search .. nothing immediately apparent came up.
- Does any of you have a homemade, working full auto gun?
- Is any of you getting close to have one?
- Are there any general design ideas around? I remember seeming a patent application for a full auto paintball gun, but are there others?
I had an idea myself until I got more recent experience with other designs. Now, I can see that it will be too difficult to get it to work..
My next idea, which I am researching now, is something like a hybrid, with the fuel/air mixing taking place downstream of the main exit valve.
Regards
Soren
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:19 am
by socoj2
My nerf launcher can do full auto, How ever Semi is Fine for me.
There are a mass of Full auto paintball guns.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:47 am
by Hotwired
There are no automatic spudguns.
The only automatics are for spherical ammo types.
Automated spud launching if it happens is likely to be somewhat like a manual loading set up using pneumatic cylinders actuated in order.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:49 am
by M.J.P.
Yeah ive seen many fully automatic paintball but they are very expensive.
Also i have read about some full auto pneumatic cannons but they don't always work 100%.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:47 am
by Hotwired
Auto cannon /= auto spudgun
Clide has made a short burst auto golfball cannon but it would be incapable of doing the same with spuds.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:33 pm
by SNDM
I think that the terms Auto and Semi-Auto are becoming a bit confused.
Semi-Auto: Will complete a full shooting cycle (firing, reloading) with just one trigger.
Auto: Will complete multiple cycles with constant activation until stopped manually.
I dont know why, but Ive always felt using a sprinkler valve quickly is a sort of cheating.
I suppose to me it doesnt feel techy enough to be merited.
No offence or anything, just a personal view.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:26 pm
by Brian the brain
You should read my 35 bar repeater thread.
It is a basis for further exploration and could be adapted for full auto with the use of a pneumatic ram recocking the hammer, using the exhaust from the barrel to power it.
Is that techy enough?
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:51 pm
by socoj2
Semi-Auto: Will complete a full shooting cycle (firing, reloading) with just one trigger.
Auto: Will complete multiple cycles while holding down the trigger.
Auto-Cannon - Can shoot anything pre-loaded into 7" shells
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:47 pm
by Hotwired
I think it's safe to assume that someone mentioning auto cannons in this thread is not referring to military hardware.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:40 pm
by judgment_arms
I made the Wookie gun, it kind of worked…
I’ve had… 2-4 prototypes that’ll cycle automatically.
Currently working on the Valkyrie project, which should produce several machine guns and auto-cannons.
I have begun work on a cal .84 (3/4” SCH40 PVC) auto-shotgun; the prototype for it worked, so I hope to have something to show when it’s all said and done.
Hummm… just thought of something, would y’all like me to post my prototypes, or just hold off till I get something really cool?
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:15 pm
by pat123
Hummm… just thought of something, would y’all like me to post my prototypes, or just hold off till I get something really cool?
Post them, everyone can see them and help you improve on the final design.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:20 pm
by judgment_arms
pat123 wrote:Hummm… just thought of something, would y’all like me to post my prototypes, or just hold off till I get something really cool?
Post them, everyone can see them and help you improve on the final design.
I wonder how many of them are still intact…
Okay, be on the look out for ‘em sometime in the next few days.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:39 am
by dongfang
Hi,
OK when saying a full auto spudgun, I did mean a full auto home-made cannon, no solid explosives, and shooting any ammo. Hold the trigger to keep firing.
I would love to see those prototypes of yours, Judgment. You can always tell which details are perfect as-is, and which other still need some work. There will always be something left to be desired anyway .. at least the first several years of experimenting.
Regards
Soren
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:57 am
by socoj2
dongfang wrote:Hi,
OK when saying a full auto spudgun, I did mean a full auto home-made cannon, no solid explosives, and shooting any ammo. Hold the trigger to keep firing.
My Full auto Cannon is 55-100 PSI 10 Shot Auto Loading Electro Pneumatic. It is built to shoot Nerf Rockets. It has an instant Charge Feature. its Rate of fire is 3-4 Shots per second.
You load what ever you want to shoot in a 7" long PVC shell.
Grr i need to update my build log.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:39 am
by judgment_arms
socoj2 wrote:
Grr i need to update my build log.
Yeah, would be nice if you would.
