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1/2" valve seat and 3/4" barrel? Please explain
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:06 pm
by velocity3x
The model below is for a 1/2" valve seat. It shows projectile velocity increases using a 3/4" barrel against the 1/2" valve seat as opposed to using a 1/2 barrel / 1/2 valve seat. I've always thought gas passing from a smaller orifice into a larger barrel would reduce gas velocity and volume. Apparently it does not. Can someone please explain why using a large barrel dia with a smaller valve actually increases performance
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Re: 1/2" valve seat and 3/4" barrel? Please explai
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:42 pm
by Ragnarok
velocity3x wrote:I've always thought gas passing from a smaller orifice into a larger barrel would reduce gas velocity and volume. Apparently it does not.
It does!
The fact is, although the gas is depressurizing further (and is thus at a lower pressure), there's a larger area for the gasses to work on, so the actual forces are higher.
That is to say, increases in barrel volume - either via lengthening it or increasing diameter) will increase muzzle energy (to a finite limit).
If you haven't scaled the projectile mass, this extra energy will exhibit as greater velocity.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:52 pm
by velocity3x
Ragnarok,
Thanks for explaining. I never considered the additional force generated by the larger barrel area. I was born dumb and often experience a relapse.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:22 pm
by Technician1002
A big barrel on a big valve is the best combination. This was part of the testing we did for the t shirt competition. Which is better on a 2 inch valve.. A 2.5 inch barrel or a 3 inch barrel. The 3 inch barrel won by a small margin.
Leaving the barrel size fixed and just increasing the valve size will also make improvements. This is the big reason for my current project. It's not for a bigger barrel (which is possible) but better performance with a golf ball barrel.
A 4 inch barrel on a 3 inch valve will have serious power.
A six inch barrel on a 6 inch valve can do this at 60 - 100 PSI.
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