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first piston
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:46 pm
by colty-bear
i just finished my first piston today a copper/brass fittings coaxial
it works beautifully at 150psi but that is not enough pressure for me
if it is copper pipe and copper and brass fittings what psi will it hold?
i am thinking about getting a 400 psi pump
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:06 pm
by Hotwired
The weakest copper pipe I know of is metric plumbing pipe.
That is safe to over 300psi all the way to 54mm diameter and smaller sizes such as 15mm, 22mm and 28mm are fine with 600psi.
Imperial pipe seems to be thicker than the metric versions so it may well have higher pressure ratings.
The pressures above refer to the actual working pressure not bursting pressure.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:14 pm
by colty-bear
it is straight cut copper it is 5/8 and the barrel is 1/4 the reducer is copper but the trigger assembly is brass
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:41 pm
by far_cry
400 psi its ok
if you can you give some spec and pictures this will help better
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:57 pm
by colty-bear
i will when i fix it

i just finished it today and after about 20 shots it was leaking real bad so i unscrewed it and the inner barrel stamped a hole in the rubber sealing face! it was slightly sharp though so i took a file and hit the pipe to blunt it up a little
should that keep it from cutting the rubber?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:37 pm
by jrrdw
Is your piston hammering shut? if so it's gonna keep cutting it. Try harder rubber.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:45 pm
by colty-bear
it only moves about 3/4 inch but it was also slightly sharp from being cut so i made it blunt ill try again if that dosn't work ill find harder rubber
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:27 pm
by far_cry
harder rubber also will be cut
you must make a bigger edge
or find something fits on the barrel edge and glow it
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:34 pm
by colty-bear
that is going to be VERY hard the chamber is 5/8 and the barrel is 1/4 the barrel is about 2 inches in from where i can unscrew the trigger assembly
if i cut an old car tire would that not cut?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:20 pm
by far_cry
try the car tire . much better than what did you used for the first time
make sure the rubber is flat and 5 mm thick
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:47 am
by colty-bear
fixed! i got it fixed for now. I think
is it bad if you can hear a slight leak probably losing 1psi every second? will that change when i put higher pressure in it?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:53 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
colty-bear wrote:the inner barrel stamped a hole in the rubber sealing face!
Happened to me when I started plaing with higher pressures. Harder rubber won't really help in the long term, what I do is take a suitable sized length of tubing of larger diameter (for example pen tubes work well for 6mm barrels) and epoxy a short length to the breech end of the barrel to give a bigger surface area for the piston to rest on.
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:20 am
by colty-bear
the rubber i am using now is tractor tire rubber VERY HARD and seals up it wont stamp because it has wire running inside it to reinforce it.
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:38 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Won't it "stamp" until it reaches the wire, at which point it will stop sealing? Especially if you intend to up your pressures by almost 300%...
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:50 am
by colty-bear
well when i hit it, it made the end of the pipe flat
like so
also the rubber is very tough i took a big sample and tried stabbing it a few times, like i said very tough outer rubber