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Help-Pneumatic Valve

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:27 pm
by Dreydor
First of, i would like to say that i searched the forum and i looked at the basic help on this subject, but my valve is still not working. I am using a 1 inch rainbird sprinkler valve on my pneumatic cannon, but the problem is it's leeking air into the barrel. The air is not flowing fully, but there is a smalll amount coming out, enough to stop the gun from actuallly presurizing. I washed and cleaned the diaphraagm, it doesnt appear to be defective either. The pilot valve is in, teflon wrapped, my solenoid is clogged, everything appears fine, but it doesn't work. Any ideas?

Also, on the diaphragm there is a little plastic filter piece. Is that my problem?Is that suposd to b there?

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Edited by jrrdw.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:36 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
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How are you filling the chamber? Some sprinkler valves require a minimum pressure to seal and won't seal if you're filling too slowly.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:56 pm
by Dreydor
mhhhh....i just built the gun, and i was doing prelimainary testing on the valve and such with a small bike pump to check if everything was working okay...ill try with a bigger pump then, thnx. Ill post later wether it worked or not...

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:05 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Is that "filter" bit stuck in the diaphragm, it looks like some sort of equilisation hole.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:38 pm
by Dreydor
yea, it goes right through the diaphragm

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:32 pm
by jrrdw
You need to be able to fill the chamber quickly, a bigger pump might or might not help you. These valves do break in and get easier to use. Try squirting a little bit of water into it to get the diaphram wet, sometimes that helps. Also make sure the arrow is pointed towards the barrel, (you'd be surprised how many make that mistake).

Welcome to Spudfiles.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:36 pm
by spudtyrrant
it most likely isb't that you filling the chamber too slow the usually problem when air is leaking out the barrel is there is debris where the diaphram seals, pvc shavings are usually the culprit take apart the valve and clean it real well and the try it again that should fix the problem . :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:47 pm
by jrrdw
He did that.
I washed and cleaned the diaphraagm, it doesnt appear to be defective either

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:17 pm
by Dreydor
does anybody know what that lil filter thing is there for/is it suposd top b there?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:54 pm
by dewey-1
Dreydor wrote:does anybody know what that lil filter thing is there for/is it suposd top b there?
Its purpose is to prevent debris or foreign particles from clogging the equalization hole when used as a sprinkler valve.

When used for pneumatic use, it is usually removed for better performance. At least this is true on an Orbit valve.

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:24 pm
by Dreydor
Ok, so i will remove the filter from my orbit cuz maybe its leaking ther