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pneumatic rifle problem
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:37 pm
by Marffy
ok i got a rifle i made with a 2ft long peice of 2inch pipe as the air chamber. i also have some different size barrels that go from 2ft long to 3.5ft long.It has an inline formation for the extra power. problem is that the gun is 6ft long. how should i shorten it?
shorten air chamber
shorten barrels
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:42 pm
by grock
under/over?
post too short.............................
REEDIT: nevermind
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:49 pm
by Brian the brain
Ever heard of a sawed-off?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:09 pm
by Marffy
Brian the brain wrote:Ever heard of a sawed-off?

yes but id like to keep accuracy
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm
by maverik94
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:47 pm
by SEAKING9006
Too bad accurately mimicking the ergonomics of a traditional rifle are far from simple using standard plumbing parts....

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:11 am
by D_Hall
SEAKING9006 wrote:Too bad accurately mimicking the ergonomics of a traditional rifle are far from simple using standard plumbing parts....

You can come pretty close. Below is a pic I just took of a gun I've got 90% finished (really need to get off my arse and finish it!). Nothing but off the shelf parts there and the ergonomics are very close to a normal rifle.
(And despite being made from steel - not PVC - it's still pretty easy to handle. Why? Because ergonomics were considered from the ground up. It handles pretty much like a normal rifle.)
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:35 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
D_Hall wrote:Nothing but off the shelf parts there and the ergonomics are very close to a normal rifle.
Well, almost
Looks like it can handle quite a bit of pressure...
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:16 am
by iknowmy3tables
this is how I made a rifle style stock out of pvc
@D_Hall: though the weight seams fairly balanced on your shoulder the barrel placement on that gun looks pretty high so the lack of muzzle weight and high barrel placement looks like you'll have a good bit of muzzle jump on that gun
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:20 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
iknowmy3tables wrote:though the weight seams fairly balanced on your shoulder the barrel placement on that gun looks pretty high so the lack of muzzle weight and high barrel placement looks like you'll have a good bit of muzzle jump on that gun
The man has a point, perhaps it ought to be inverted so the barrel is resting on your shoulder?
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:31 am
by D_Hall
Three words: moment of inertia.
Not to say that there won't be muzzle jump. Rather, to say that I think it will be managable due to the moment of inertia that a long, heavy gun results in.
Time will tell.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:13 am
by psycix
Time will tell.
No it won't, action will tell! Go finish it!
Trying to encourage you as you have the common problem of "(really need to get off my arse and finish it!)" 
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:18 am
by Ragnarok
Going for rifle ergonomics is hardly difficult.
If you can fudge together some form of pistol grip...

... then you can get something which handles like it's a large rifle (bipod and scope optional).
@ Marffy: Don't fool yourself into thinking that barrel length has all that much to do with accuracy. Yes, firearms with longer barrels are generally more accurate, but don't mistake that for cause and effect.
Long range rifles both need the accuracy to hit at long range (as targets "appear" smaller), and more velocity (to reduce time to target, and to still have enough energy left after the drag).
It's this latter part which is linked to the barrel length, because longer barrels will yield higher muzzle velocities. The higher accuracy is simply to do with the fact that these weapons are built to higher standards (and usually use better quality ammunition).
So, yes, the two often go together, but neither one is the (direct) result of the other.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:27 am
by jmadden91
Sh*t Rag! update the page on your HEAL! :thumbright: We never saw any pics with the add ons
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:54 am
by D_Hall
psycix wrote:Time will tell.
No it won't, action will tell! Go finish it!
Gotta finish Vera first!
(speaking of which, most of Vera's control circuits got wired up this week)