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5/8-18UNF on mini-lathe
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:17 pm
by Demon
Hello all
I would like to know for a project if a co2 airtank 5/8-18 UNF thread could be machined out of a lathe?
Air pressure would'nt be going over 200 psi.
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:32 pm
by jrrdw
Yes, it most certinly can.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:59 pm
by ramses
Most likely. If you want an adapter to connect a tank to, keep in mind that there is a mechanism similar to a propane tank or schrader that must be depressed for anything to actually flow.
Also note that inside threads are generally tricky to do without a tap. Especially if you leave something in the middle to depress the mechanism I described above.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:38 pm
by Demon
Most likely. If you want an adapter to connect a tank to, keep in mind that there is a mechanism similar to a propane tank or schrader that must be depressed for anything to actually flow.
A 5/8-18 UNF is the female thread inside the CO2 tank, with its valve removed, so its a male thread that goes in.
Is 5/8-18 UNF a nominal pipe thread or is much smaller/bigger ?
If anyone knows the 5/8-18 UNF datasheet, please tell me so i can get to turn it on my mini lathe.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:12 pm
by Gippeto
5/8-18UNF is not pipe thread. It's a straight cut thread.
Info on major and minor diameters can be found here;
http://www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-tap-standard.htm
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:28 pm
by Demon
Thanks for the link
So if i thread a rod following to the datasheet that you posted, it should fit just right in a 16 oz co2 tank without its pin valve?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:28 pm
by ramses
IIRC, you will need some kind of sealing aid like an o ring.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:39 pm
by jrrdw
Demon wrote:Thanks for the link
So if i thread a rod following to the datasheet that you posted, it should fit just right in a 16 oz co2 tank without its pin valve?
Use test piece's so you can get it right. Cutting thread's with a lathe can be a bit tricky when your not making matching piece's. There are variables, (I don't know your skill level).
Have you cut threads with your lathe before?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:03 pm
by Demon
Nope, i but i can make a prediction that it will take me 1-2 months to get in handy with it.
(Yes...i havent buyed it yet , but i have read a lot about it and i really want a mini-lathe for all my projects, including non air smithing (electronics and robots))
But i just need to know, and i know its not a skill level for noobs( and as i am one) i need to practice and learn.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:11 pm
by CS
As said internal threading is tricky. My main occurrence with this cutting procedure is that the tool holder flexes.
So two fixes: make a more rigid tool holder (1/2" cold roll square), and the other option is to make a tap. (taps become increasingly useful, as using a single point cutter tool w/ a sufficient shank size decrease)
Now the beautiful part. Taps are externally formed threads, to make internal threads. So using the same methods to create your male thread, you can make a tap. From there reliefs need to be made, these can be milled in, roughed with a angle grinder, etc. This type of tap won't last long, but perfect for one-off, few part runs.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:37 pm
by Demon
As said internal threading is tricky.
Maybe, but i dont want to make internal threads, i want to make a male thread to fit in an valveless co2 16 oz tank...
And why not buy a tap? It could be a good investement.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:33 pm
by Demon
Sorry for double post
But i have just seen something interesting
Does a such tap (a female one) exists for a mini 7 x 12 lathe and 5/8 - 18 unf thread?
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:32 pm
by Technician1002
Demon wrote:Sorry for double post
But i have just seen something interesting
Does a such tap (a female one) exists for a mini 7 x 12 lathe and 5/8 - 18 unf thread?
The female tap is called a die. You don't need a lathe to use one. A die handle is used.
http://www.tradeindia.com/fp158682/ROUN ... ANDLE.html
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:52 am
by Coodude26
Technician1002 wrote:
The female tap is called a die. You don't need a lathe to use one. A die handle is used.
Fix'd, unless I am missing something.
Just to clarify:
A tap: used to cut threads on the inside of a piece of metal (ie, a hole)
http://www.nmri.go.jp/eng/khirata/metal ... 01_big.jpg
A Die: used to cut threads on the outside of a piece of metal (ie, a metal rod)
http://images.toolspot.co.uk/Tap%20&%20 ... 0Set_2.jpg
Also as other people have said using a lathe is very difficult and takes a lot of experience so if you ever end up going for that approach, take it slow and know that you won't get it right on the first (or tenth) try.
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:58 am
by Technician1002
Coodude26 wrote:
Fix'd, unless I am missing something.
Thanks for proofreading.. good catch..
