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Cheap 3 way valves?

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:07 pm
by Goats spudz
i want to make my gun semi auto i just cant find any 3 way dcv's in the uk, anyone know any good sites?

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:07 pm
by Gun Freak

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:59 pm
by Goats spudz
not available in uk and is npt not bsp

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:04 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11-3mm-Thread ... 4cfa6557e4

I'm guessing it would fit this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G1-4-Pipe-Pne ... 2314c06cd4

some real good deals on pneumatic parts on ebay but the thread sizes are so poorly defined!

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:35 pm
by Goats spudz
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11-3mm-Thread ... 4cfa6557e4

I'm guessing it would fit this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G1-4-Pipe-Pne ... 2314c06cd4

some real good deals on pneumatic parts on ebay but the thread sizes are so poorly defined!
hey JSR the top link looks like BS because they don't understand thread sizes and is the bottom one a dcv or a qev

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:52 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Goats spudz wrote:hey JSR the top link looks like BS because they don't understand thread sizes
The problem is the people selling them, not the manufacturer. For example I bought this, fits 1/2" BSP perfectly
is the bottom one a dcv or a qev
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eBay seller wrote:G1/4" Pipe Pneumatic Quick Exhaust Control Valve QE-02
:roll:

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:56 pm
by Goats spudz
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Goats spudz wrote:hey JSR the top link looks like BS because they don't understand thread sizes
The problem is the people selling them, not the manufacturer. For example I bought this, fits 1/2" BSP perfectly
is the bottom one a dcv or a qev
Image
eBay seller wrote:G1/4" Pipe Pneumatic Quick Exhaust Control Valve QE-02
:roll:
i want something like the MJVO-3 but 1/4" BSP, have you got a schematic that i can get machined?

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:15 pm
by al-xg
NPT threads do somewhat work with BSP, not something you'd want to take for granted especially at high pressures, but it does work ok in most cases.

Would be quite expensive to get something like that machined and that works as expected.
You can check out the ZDSPB website for diagrams and explanations on 3 way solenoid valves designed for high pressure air.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:23 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/diy-3-2 ... 21061.html

I'm guessing that's how the clippard valve works too.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:59 pm
by Goats spudz
al-xg wrote:NPT threads do somewhat work with BSP, not something you'd want to take for granted especially at high pressures, but it does work ok in most cases.

Would be quite expensive to get something like that machined and that works as expected.
You can check out the ZDSPB website for diagrams and explanations on 3 way solenoid valves designed for high pressure air.
my dad works at a machine shop, and JSR i might order that blue slide check if the threads are the wrong size could i grind flat then re-tap and die the threads to 1/4" bsp with a lathe?

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:15 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Goats spudz wrote:JSR i might order that blue slide check if the threads are the wrong size could i grind flat then re-tap and die the threads to 1/4" bsp with a lathe?
I doubt it, but seriously, it's less than 5 quid posted... what have you got to lose? Aside from 5 quid ;)

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:20 pm
by Goats spudz
Well... yes ok your right, anyhow can you explain why my quick connects leak at 150 psi up

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:31 pm
by Gun Freak
Dude, the slide valve will work fine. Even if you get the wrong size... buy a bushing. :wink:
anyhow can you explain why my quick connects leak at 150 psi up
It is probably a bad seal or a bad quality QC. Sometimes, though, you can put them in the wrong way, and if it is crooked it will leak. Connect it at low pressure so you can make sure it is straight.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:00 pm
by Goats spudz
Gun Freak wrote:Dude, the slide valve will work fine. Even if you get the wrong size... buy a bushing. :wink:
anyhow can you explain why my quick connects leak at 150 psi up
It is probably a bad seal or a bad quality QC. Sometimes, though, you can put them in the wrong way, and if it is crooked it will leak. Connect it at low pressure so you can make sure it is straight.
erm... my QC was £2 :oops: i think i can solve the prob by putting a ball valve behind it or a non-return valve

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:32 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
JSR i might order that blue slide check if the threads are the wrong size could i grind flat then re-tap and die the threads to 1/4" bsp with a lathe?
When you buy stuff from ebay you have to have some knoledge because ppl selling stuff there are often incompetent

That's the case here

If you have doubts you can always email the seller and ask for clarification/ ask him if he has something with 1/4" BSP threads and he can check if the thing he is selling has BSP threads


Normally these guys are motivated to sell their stuff so if you write something along the lines of:

'I want to buy it but I've never heard of 11.3mm Threads. Could you check if it has NPT or BSP threads? I guess other buyers have the same problem as I do - so if you check it and provide correct info you will sell more'