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diaphram QEV
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:33 pm
by origin unknown
Would a diaphram QEV perform just as well as a piston QEV?
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:37 pm
by CS
Not familiar with any QEV using a piston, have any documentation? Or is this just a incorrect speculation?
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:41 pm
by super spuder
Nevermind. I am confused.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:41 pm
by origin unknown
Well, I just bought a QEV from a local retailer, and they had no piston type QEVs, so I just got the diaphram one. I wasn't sure if they had not as good performance because sprinkler valves dont have that good of flow, and the diaphram QEVs were similiar to that of a sprinkler valve.
--They do make piston type QEVs
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:45 pm
by hi
I think that hotwired's copperhead prime uses a piston, but i have no proof.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:14 pm
by subterranean
yeah eaxctly that copper head prime has a "piston" type qev, the actual piston is built into the valve. The piston doesnt work exactly like the common barrel or chamnber sealing piston that are homemade.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:20 pm
by frankrede
correction, they do work the same way.
You just don't know it.
The piston is always built into the valve btw, because the piston is the valve
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:20 pm
by noname
Sprinkler valves have lower flow because of their 180*s of twists and turns. A diaphragm valve will perform better for shorter barrels because of the faster opening time, pistons a little better for longer barrels because of the slightly increased flow.
QEVs usually have either a diaphragm or a very short piston.
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:12 am
by Hotwired
Yes mine does have a piston QEV - its more of a barrel shape.
You can see the two types here:
http://www.airlines-pneumatics.co.uk/we ... ?SubCat=85
The diaphragm one has a flattened out shape where the rubber disk is clamped in the body.
The piston in the piston ones is a hard rubbery shape that physically moves up and down the valve body and isn't fixed at any point you can see what it's like here:
http://www.uksgc.co.uk/forums/index.php ... ic=475&hl=
If you click on the airlines link you can see the flow available in the diaphragm QEV's but that information isn't available for the piston ones so I couldn't say which was better.
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:54 pm
by Infernal Maveric
I personaly haveboth diphragmn and piston QEVs.
I much prefer the piston one, mainly because it is smaller in size.
I have no clue about power differences, but i'd assume they are the same(ish)
(Porting and filling holes all same for piston/dia)
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:00 pm
by spanerman
hi wrote:I think that hotwired's copperhead prime uses a piston, but i have no proof.
he uses a 1/2 i use a 3/4 and heres some photos of mine
its a piston but flat
hope this hels
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:06 pm
by origin unknown
Thanks for the advice. Should I spend the time getting a piston QEV or just stay with my diaphram QEV I already have?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:47 pm
by Hotwired
Unless you're in the UK you're going to have fun trying to find piston QEVs like that. The only located supplier for that type in the US only deals with businesses.
I'm sure there are other models of piston QEV's available but I'm pretty sure the performance is similar between diaphragm and piston models.
Piston ones just look better
