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hey ive got a standard combustion potato gun and also a more compact pneumatic rifle for paintballs, grapes, carrots. I want to make a more powerful pneumatic, comparable to the combustion. My question is whether it would be possible to use the combustion for both. I would use the 4 inch chamber from the combustion and add female/male adaptors to the barrel so it can be taken off. Then could i rig a 1 inch modded sprinkler to another barrel onto a male and have to two barrels interchangable. This way i could get the best of both worlds without making a completely new gun. obviously i am leaving out a lot of details, but it this theoretically possible? or am i an idiot? profanities are welcome.
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You're going to want a steel chamber for a hybrid. I'm guessing you used sch40 pvc for the combustion, but it isn't safe to make hybrid out of pipe that weak

You can easily make a hybrid work pneumatically, as it must be able to use the same principles to function normally.
So yes, replacing the union with a sprinkle valve will work.
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grr... no not a hybrid. sorta a hybrid. my bad. i wouldnt have ignition and pressure at the same time. i just want it to have interchangable barrels so i could easily switch between both.
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then its not a hybrid at all if you dont use both combustion and compressed air at the same time its just a multi purpose gun.
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thespeedycicada wrote:then its not a hybrid at all if you dont use both combustion and compressed air at the same time its just a multi purpose gun.
Dude, hybrid just means a combination. We just named the combination of a pneumatic and a combustion at the same time a hybrid.

If he has a dual purpose gun, that works as both a pneumatic or a combustion, it could still be classified as a hybrid. Maybe not under our specific terms though.


It's still possible, and I believe we've had people do it before too.
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dual purpose gun eh? never heard of it, but im glad it can be done. I think i have a good idea of how to do it but is there anything different about these that i am not taking into account? maybe i should post in the hybrid section then...
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Just make a chamber with a way to fill it with air, a way to fuel, and an ignition. To make it simple, make it a burst disk pneumatic.

When you wanna fire it as a combustion, fuel and ignite.

When you wanna fire it as a pneumatic, add air until the disk blows.
koolaidman wrote:dual purpose gun eh? never heard of it <snip>
I kinda just made that term up, because calling them both "hybrids" gets kind of confusing. I liked the term though. :)
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You can use any "Hybrid" as apneumatic- simply pump up the chamber till the burst disc pops.
As for using a Hybrid as a combustion, most have a chamber that would be far too small (it would work but it would have no power).
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Novacastrian wrote:You can use any "Hybrid" as apneumatic- simply pump up the chamber till the burst disc pops.
As for using a Hybrid as a combustion, most have a chamber that would be far too small (it would work but it would have no power).
Not my hybrid. :D :wink:
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what if you did the sprinkler valve/pop off combo.Just use a pop off rated for a lower pressure so when you fire it as a combustion it builds pressure the pop off vents it and actuates the sprinkler valve.When you want to go pneumatic take off the pop off and put on a blowgun.Its not as quick changing as modderxtrodanares idea but it would be cool.I have heard about the sprinkler valve pop off thing for use in a hybrid once but i dont know if it would work here.You should try it if the theory good though.
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Just my two cents, since when did air powered cannons fall under the power of combustions? I think if you made a decent air powered one it would surpass the power of a combustion.
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thespeedycicada wrote:what if you did the sprinkler valve/pop off combo.Just use a pop off rated for a lower pressure so when you fire it as a combustion it builds pressure the pop off vents it and actuates the sprinkler valve.When you want to go pneumatic take off the pop off and put on a blowgun.Its not as quick changing as modderxtrodanares idea but it would be cool.I have heard about the sprinkler valve pop off thing for use in a hybrid once but i dont know if it would work here.You should try it if the theory good though.
Well, you could tap in a female quick connect into the sprinkler, and put a male quick connect on a pop off, and on a blowgun. Alot faster to switch them.
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