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The mythbusters made a dang sail boat out of it, I'm here to tell you it is water proof. They also patched a hole in the side of a boat and it held in the water for an hour. If it can patch a boat, it can patch a fish pond.
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:15 am

Gippeto wrote:Aquarium silicone. Check at a bigger pet store.

Clean the area with paint thinner or similar degreaser, then sand it to rough it a bit...use coarse paper...40grit.

Spread the silicone about 2" on either side of the crack, and the same out from the ends of the crack.

Take a piece of fibreglass screen the size of your spread out silicone, and work it into the silicone.

Cover with more silicone, (max total thickness 1/4") let cure 24hrs.

I've patched plastic tanks on radiators using this technique, if it holds for years at 16psi, it'll work on your pond too. :)
I agree with Gippeto on this one

this would be the best way to fix it in my opinion
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:13 am

If you want to have it seal and never have a chance to leak, just use heat to form a new bond in the actual material.

Take a propane torch to it, melt in some polyethylene over the crack. it will be quick and easy. gluing is going to get tricky and messy.
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:06 am

If you want to go the welding route, here's a good site to check out:

http://plasticweldingandtools.com/

But I still say to use silicone to repair it. Gipetto's method seemed to be the best I've read so far. Fish tank silicone would work, I will not deny it, but I still suggest window weld above that for a couple of reasons:

It's black, not clear

It will bond better, and will make for a stronger repair.

It's definitely just as water tight of a seal.

And aquarium silicone is more of a sealer, window weld is a bonding agent made from urethane, which will be more durable. it's regular purpose is for adhering glass windshields into cars, so it will definitely adhere to your plastic tub.

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http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... NCGJPCKHbl
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:11 pm

Thanks it is high densite polyetylene, Im gonna either cut a bit from the lip of the pond or a 5 gallon bucket and use a propane torch
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clemsonguy1125 wrote:Thanks it is high densite polyetylene, Im gonna either cut a bit from the lip of the pond or a 5 gallon bucket and use a propane torch
Good luck with that...take pictures. :)
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Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:22 am

clemsonguy1125 wrote:and use a propane torch
Nooo! epoxy and a patch (even a bit of cloth will do) applied to a properly roughened surface will do the trick, without the risk of setting it on fire ;)
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Spoil sport... :D

FINE! I'll post a pic myself! :lol:

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Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:34 pm

It was roughend up and cleaned properly. From what I have read epoxy does not bond to HPDE.
EDIT-I just ordered a cheap plastic welding iron from harbor freight. It has a reviews saying it was used to fix a plastic fish pond.
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Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:06 pm

they do sell marine epoxy/putty.
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Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:13 pm

when using the propane torch, set it to low and sweep over the crack as if you were spray painting for a total of about 5 seconds, then heat the rod and push it through.
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Thanks, I just ordered a plastic welder though.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:31 pm

I see that you have decided to weld it.

Plumbers Goop would have worked, though. It WILL stick to that plastic, if the plastic is roughed up a bit with sandpaper.

Sand the area well. Clean with alcohol. Let dry completely. Then use the goop.
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