Ah I can't stand those people who post on facebook about how the guy with no legs is a former army soldier and how all these hand movements by people injured on the ground are actually signals for actors to fake all the injuries.POLAND_SPUD wrote: ohh and speaking of trusting governments
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False flag operations ever heard of them ? not sure if you're into history and stuff but there have been many cases of successful false flag operationsPeople can believe what they want about government involvement (although I think it's pretty ridiculous in this case) but there's no denying that two bombs exploded killing several and injuring many
and that's your argument against it?? I mean seriously it's the best argument in favour of not against itIf people want to refute that, I'm not sure how they are able to function in everyday life as they must be sceptical of even the most well-documented and scientifically sound facts
Yeah I'm aware of those, that's how Hitler started the war with Poland IIRC.False flag operations ever heard of them ? not sure if you're into history and stuff but there have been many cases of successful false flag operations
How is it in favour of the idea? My point is that there is such over-whelming evidence that a bomb exploded that you may as well reject the theory of gravity, as well as every other scientific fact, as there is not enough evidence in the world to convince that person of anything. Gravity may just be an elaborate conspiracy by scientists and governments to stop people from realising that they can float the fцck away if only they knew it were possibleand that's your argument against it?? I mean seriously it's the best argument in favour of not against it
the idea of false flag ops is that you do something yourself but claim it's done by someone else - it's not about pretending that it happened using FX effects duhhhHow is it in favour of the idea? My point is that there is such over-whelming evidence that a bomb exploded that you may as well reject the theory of gravity, as well as every other scientific fact, as there is not enough evidence in the world to convince that person of anything.
I know, hence my example about Hitler and the invasion of Poland. Also the special effects claim is one of the conspiracy theories, it's not something I pulled out of my ass. Absurd isn't it? These people are idiots. There's a website documenting the frame by frame hand movements of injured people to other injured people apparently signalling various things such as "prosthetics are off", "leg stumps attached", "fake blood deployed", etc. One of the signals is a guy putting on or removing his sunglasses, another is the guy with no legs wailing his hand about in the air.POLAND_SPUD wrote:the idea of false flag ops is that you do something yourself but claim it's done by someone else - it's not about pretending that it happened using FX effects duhhhHow is it in favour of the idea? My point is that there is such over-whelming evidence that a bomb exploded that you may as well reject the theory of gravity, as well as every other scientific fact, as there is not enough evidence in the world to convince that person of anything.
These ridiculous ideas come from those who can't fathom that a government is capable of actually bombing its own citizens.MrCrowley wrote:If you're the government and want to fake a bombing, you wouldn't do it somewhere that is broadcast live on TV with thousands of witnesses that cannot be easily controlled. At a minimum, you have to control several hundred spectators, dozens of volunteers, dozens of uniformed officers/paramedics/whatever, dozens of hospital staff, and several news reporters and race officials. There's no way you can whip off fake legs and chuck on blown off ones in a matter of seconds whilst you're filmed on TV and surrounded by dozens of people; anyone working in SFX would roar with laughter at the suggestion.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
I appreciate the fact that a false flag bombing wouldn't be an impossible scenario but there's going to have to be some pretty substantial evidence to sway me. There's nothing about this bombing that seems overly suspicious and I can't fathom why a government false flag operation would be carried out in this manner. Knowledge of the imminent attack and purposefully ignoring it is another story.jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:These ridiculous ideas come from those who can't fathom that a government is capable of actually bombing its own citizens.
I would congratulate them also but I don't think these guns are being used for legitimate purposesOn an other note, good on ya Aussie home gunsmiths
MrCrowley wrote:the suggestion that the government (well, usually its the government implicated) is both extremely resourceful, intelligent, and meticulous yet at the same time misses obvious details or botches something up.
I'm not applauding the fact that the law is being broken nor am I condoning any illegal activities involving these weapons. What I would congratulate them on though is proving that you cannot legislate against human ingenuity.I would congratulate them also but I don't think these guns are being used for legitimate purposes
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
Well, not yet, still need to wait for 3 weeks to get her as she´s only 5 weeks old 
Well, of course the Govt. isn't cleaver AND stupid at the same time. The Govt. plays the cleaver part. The people play the stupid part.MrCrowley wrote: the suggestion that the government (well, usually its the government implicated) is both extremely resourceful, intelligent, and meticulous yet at the same time misses obvious details or botches something up. If it can be proved that the government is both clever and stupid in a particular conspiracy theory, then that is fine.
Pushes out 4.2V and has 2400mAh capacity. Creates very nice and thick vapour, just what i was looking for. 
