Possible way to increase pneumatic cannon power?

Cannons powered by pneumatic pressure (compressed gas) using a valve or other release.
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Hello everyone!

Recently I was thinking about this idea to increase your pneumatic cannon power if you are limited by pump source. I have no idea if this could work.

I have an ordinary bike pump which can go up to 6 bar and currently don't have an electrical air compressor. The idea is to create full metal ball valve Airgun, pressurize it to 6 bar and then heat it on the gas stove to a higher temperature. Spring loaded mechanism as a trigger would be used.

My reasoning is that gas expands as energy is added to a system. What are your thoughts on this?
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Yes, heating it up would increase the theoretical performance of the gun. However, ball valves absolutely suck and the use of one would cripple you as compared to a normal pneumatic with a proper valve for the application.

Beyond that? It's a lot more energy efficient to just put the gas from the stove inside the gun, light it there, and call your gun a hybrid. That is, after all, how a hybrid works (more or less).
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Sounds like you're on your way to a steam-powered spud gun? I have no idea how steam pressure works except that it makes things explode if a safety valve isn't used.
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just put the gas from the stove inside the gun, light it there, and call your gun a hybrid
Yup. You can also just buy one of those cheapo Chinese pumps and be done with it :D
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D_Hall wrote:Yes, heating it up would increase the theoretical performance of the gun. However, ball valves absolutely suck and the use of one would cripple you as compared to a normal pneumatic with a proper valve for the application.

Beyond that? It's a lot more energy efficient to just put the gas from the stove inside the gun, light it there, and call your gun a hybrid. That is, after all, how a hybrid works (more or less).
Then burst disc cannon would be a better solution. I am thinking bigger the chamber, more thermal energy can be stored.
Moonbogg wrote:Sounds like you're on your way to a steam-powered spud gun? I have no idea how steam pressure works except that it makes things explode if a safety valve isn't used.
It would perform better at rainy and humid days. The burst disc cannon would be a safety in itself, the thin aluminum disk would burst at a certain pressure. Perhaps adding a teaspoon of water plus pressurized air?
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just put the gas from the stove inside the gun, light it there, and call your gun a hybrid
Yup. You can also just buy one of those cheapo Chinese pumps and be done with it :D

Or use Chinese high pressure pump and thermal energy :mrgreen:

Anyways, this is the chamber I plan to use. Everything would be isolated with aluminum foil and newspaper, except for the central part of the pipe which will be exposed to flames.

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If you're just doing this to prove that it can be done, go for it.

DO understand that there are much easier ways to accomplish your goal, however.
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So the plan is to basically heat the chamber until the burst disk fails?

Sounds like fun :D make sure that the chamber material doesn't lose too much strength when being heated...
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