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this is a prototype for a design i just been thinking about lately. I was originally designed for paint balls but i had this pipe laying around so i decided to go for it. Basically the piston restricts the flow and is forced forward, this seats a gb/pb and closes the breech. when the air stops the rubber band returns the bolt to the back position.
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Nice. it's a variation of the blow forward bolt that works, but perhaps not as well in terms of performance and efficiency because of the flow restriction.
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Im sorry but im not sure if i understand it. The forward action of the bolt pushes the projectile out right? If so, then i understand.
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The pressure coming into the breech is entering faster than it can escape though the small hole in the bolt, so the pressure difference means the bolt is pushed forward, sealing the barrel and closing off the magazine. The projectile is then propelled out by the air leaking through the hole in the bolt.
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That's awesome! It may be better suited for airsoft pellets or bb's, but it is still an amazing job. I can't wait to see it in a completed cannon.
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i still dont understand why you would want to have a blow forward bolt i mean the reason machine guns use it is to help cool the barrel between shots as the air can flow through the barrel instead of just outside the barrel, with the restriction you have in the bolt what kind of fps are you getting out of your projectile, it just seems to be a waste of air to me, there should be a much more efficent way
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hey homedepotpro will you make a how to for that please or just pm me on how to do it be cause i want to use this with my new gun.plz? :D :shock:
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Nice, simple design. I like the electrical-tape o-ring! :lol:
To me this seems more suited for people who don't have the knowledge or capability to make the original blow foward.


What I want to learn in how to make a bolt that is normally closed, but opens right before pressure is applied, and closes again on pressure. This is the kind found in most high-quality paintball guns, as far as I know.

For your bolt, to increase performance you should increase the restrictor hole size as much as possible while making sure it still works.
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Hailfire753 wrote:...For your bolt, to increase performance you should increase the restrictor hole size as much as possible while making sure it still works.
Maybe doing away with restrictor hole completely and adding a homemade check valve to the front, making the tension on the check valve just enough so that it opens when the bolt is fully closed.
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I would think it would be beneficial to work the optimum flow restriction into a homemade paintball repeater if it means conserving air and limiting velocity. The goal probably isn't to have insanely high velocity paintballs.
I am currently assembling a paintball repeater in which I am going to reduce the barrel diameter where the piston seals to conserve air. With this set-up I am hoping for a gun that shoots 5-10 good shots.
It will have my piston/hammer valve theory put to the test. A long chamber under the barrel will hold the shooting air and the stock will be a chamber for resetting the piston.
It will just have a manually operated bolt though. I don't like the idea of the ball sitting in an unsealed area when the air hits it. Quite a bit must go into the magazine before the bolt fully seals it.
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