High pressure pump plans (Request, yup)

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I need help with this, In fact not with the pump itself, but with the valve.

The pressures involved will be too high for a bought checkvalve (I doubt we even have checkvalves in hardware stores here) , so what can I do to make a custom one? I allready tried a poppet valve, but it didn't seem to seal very well... I could attempt this again but up the scale a little... so it doesn't have to be that precise...

Any other ideas though? I have access to a lathe, so don't worry if that's a requirement for your design.

Your help will be much appreciated.
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a schrader?

(of making a simple diagram i will send you on msn)
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SpudFarm wrote:a schrader?

(of making a simple diagram i will send you on msn)
That won't exactly hold 60-100 bars. :(
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didn't gippeto bring one to 300bar?
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Did you check the "How-To" section? Guess not.

This pump was designed with the non-lathe owner in mind.

With a lathe, you should be able to make several improvements on this simple design.


http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/easy-st ... 13277.html



Edit: And I did take a schrader to 300Bar.

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http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/the-fai ... 15393.html
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Gippeto wrote:Did you check the "How-To" section? Guess not.

This pump was designed with the non-lathe owner in mind.

With a lathe, you should be able to make several improvements on this simple design.


http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/easy-st ... 13277.html



Edit: And I did take a schrader to 300Bar.

Thread is here:

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/the-fai ... 15393.html
I am looking for a pump that will hold a minimum of 60 bars... wich is in fact double the pressure you used.. so I kind of did not try it..
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this should do
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Edit: And I did take a schrader to 300Bar.

Thread is here:

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/the-fai ... der-valve- t15393.html


I am looking for a pump that will hold a minimum of 60 bars... wich is in fact double the pressure you used.. so I kind of did not try it..
hmm I don't get it... 60 bar is more than 300 bar?
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I understand. :)

This was the check valve I first built for the co-ax. Burst pressure of 9000psi using yield strength of the material (316 stainless).

Threads are 1/8"npt

The ball is 1/8", the o-ring I believe is an 005. The plug is hollowed out to allow the ball to travel slightly. It also "retains" the o-ring in place.

Edit: Almost forgot, you will have to add a spring to use it in a pump. :)
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THis layout might be better for your needs.
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hmm I don't get it... 60 bar is more than 300 bar?
I understand. :)

LOL I don't :? (wtf??)

anyone is willing to explain this ?
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@ PolandSpud, I believe he was referring to the pump I built. It was only tested (at that time :) ) to 400psi (~28bar).
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@gippetto ohh now that does make sense... sorry

@ necrosis of course you'll have to use much smaller diameter of the piston and possibly use a hydraulic tubing instead (or at least buy very thick walled copper pipes but I am not sure if soldering will hold ~ 1000 psi ?:? )....and add a shrader to that to cut costs


I don't see any reason why a floating piston shouldn't work so that's pretty much everything you need

it seems like a very nice project...
I've been thinking of building something like this for quite a long time
Once you get addicted to high pressures you always want to go higher....:wink: 80 bar would satisfy me for a while...
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@ Necrosis

I've been tossing this around for a while. It should be a fairly simple project with the lathe. I've just been too busy to put it together of late.
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POLAND_SPUD wrote:@gippetto ohh now that does make sense... sorry

@ necrosis of course you'll have to use much smaller diameter of the piston and possibly use a hydraulic tubing instead (or at least buy very thick walled copper pipes but I am not sure if soldering will hold ~ 1000 psi
Yeah, I have hydraulic pipe lying around 8mm in diameter.

And I'll thread the connections anyway, so no need for soldering. :).
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